Av Gas?

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TomDressler
Sun, Jun 30, 2024 2:08 AM

Hey all,
Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike?
Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it prefers >90.
Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas.
Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well.
Im just curious…
Thanks.

…Tom

Hey all, Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike? Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it prefers >90. Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas. Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well. Im just curious… Thanks. …Tom
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F.C. Hecker
Sun, Jun 30, 2024 2:43 AM

I ran several gallons of AV gas, LL100, thru my 96 SS/SP a year or two ago
when I could not get non-ethanol gas. Ran well enough, left a white powdery
deposit on the plugs. Stock carbs, no jetting changes, stock airbox lid, no
rubber snorkels. That was my experince....
Fred Hecker
STL MO

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 9:08 PM TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

Hey all,
Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike?
Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it
prefers >90.
Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to
preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas.
Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it
50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well.
Im just curious…
Thanks.

…Tom

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I ran several gallons of AV gas, LL100, thru my 96 SS/SP a year or two ago when I could not get non-ethanol gas. Ran well enough, left a white powdery deposit on the plugs. Stock carbs, no jetting changes, stock airbox lid, no rubber snorkels. That was my experince.... Fred Hecker STL MO On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 9:08 PM TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey all, > Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike? > Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it > prefers >90. > Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to > preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas. > Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it > 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well. > Im just curious… > Thanks. > > …Tom > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Vicki Smith
Sun, Jun 30, 2024 2:45 AM

Hi Tom,
Rich says it’s fine to do…
Vicki

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 10:43 PM F.C. Hecker fheckerduc@gmail.com wrote:

I ran several gallons of AV gas, LL100, thru my 96 SS/SP a year or two ago
when I could not get non-ethanol gas. Ran well enough, left a white powdery
deposit on the plugs. Stock carbs, no jetting changes, stock airbox lid, no
rubber snorkels. That was my experince....
Fred Hecker
STL MO

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 9:08 PM TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

Hey all,
Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike?
Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it
prefers >90.
Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to
preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas.
Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it
50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well.
Im just curious…
Thanks.

…Tom

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Hi Tom, Rich says it’s fine to do… Vicki On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 10:43 PM F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: > I ran several gallons of AV gas, LL100, thru my 96 SS/SP a year or two ago > when I could not get non-ethanol gas. Ran well enough, left a white powdery > deposit on the plugs. Stock carbs, no jetting changes, stock airbox lid, no > rubber snorkels. That was my experince.... > Fred Hecker > STL MO > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 9:08 PM TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike? >> Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it >> prefers >90. >> Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to >> preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas. >> Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it >> 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well. >> Im just curious… >> Thanks. >> >> …Tom >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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dale.bartlett@realtimeinternational.com.au
Sun, Jun 30, 2024 6:57 AM

I used to run avgas in a Moto Guzzi Le Mans Mk1 to stop it pinking under load. Ran perfectly.

Regards
Dale Bartlett

-----Original Message-----
From: TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2024 12:08 PM
To: Ducati Group ducati@list.ducati.net
Subject: [Ducati] Av Gas?

Hey all,
Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike?
Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it prefers >90.
Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas.
Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well.
Im just curious…
Thanks.

…Tom

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I used to run avgas in a Moto Guzzi Le Mans Mk1 to stop it pinking under load. Ran perfectly. Regards Dale Bartlett -----Original Message----- From: TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2024 12:08 PM To: Ducati Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: [Ducati] Av Gas? Hey all, Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike? Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it prefers >90. Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas. Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well. Im just curious… Thanks. …Tom -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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goducati@hutchtel.net
Mon, Jul 1, 2024 11:03 PM

You want to run the lowest ocatane you can without pre detonation.  The
additives for high octane are intended to make it not burn well and will
reduce power.  It's done for high compression, as that and whatever else
is going on needs not to pre detonate.  E85 burns so poorly but for
boost or high compression is the bomb.

marko

On 2024-06-29 9:08 pm, TomDressler wrote:

Hey all,
Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike?
Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it
prefers >90.
Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to
preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas.
Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes
it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well.
Im just curious…
Thanks.

…Tom

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You want to run the lowest ocatane you can without pre detonation. The additives for high octane are intended to make it not burn well and will reduce power. It's done for high compression, as that and whatever else is going on needs not to pre detonate. E85 burns so poorly but for boost or high compression is the bomb. marko On 2024-06-29 9:08 pm, TomDressler wrote: > Hey all, > Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike? > Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it > prefers >90. > Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to > preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas. > Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes > it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well. > Im just curious… > Thanks. > > …Tom > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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jeffrey case
Tue, Jul 2, 2024 10:27 AM

a  proper  race  gas is  far superior.   no  serious  engine  builder  uses  or  advises  av-gas. 

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 04:03:50 PM PDT, <goducati@hutchtel.net> wrote:  

You want to run the lowest ocatane you can without pre detonation.  The
additives for high octane are intended to make it not burn well and will
reduce power.  It's done for high compression, as that and whatever else
is going on needs not to pre detonate.  E85 burns so poorly but for
boost or high compression is the bomb.

marko

  On 2024-06-29 9:08 pm, TomDressler wrote:

Hey all,
Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike?
Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it
prefers >90.
Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to
preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas.
Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes
it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well.
Im just curious…
Thanks.

…Tom

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a  proper  race  gas is  far superior.   no  serious  engine  builder  uses  or  advises  av-gas.  On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 04:03:50 PM PDT, <goducati@hutchtel.net> wrote: You want to run the lowest ocatane you can without pre detonation.  The additives for high octane are intended to make it not burn well and will reduce power.  It's done for high compression, as that and whatever else is going on needs not to pre detonate.  E85 burns so poorly but for boost or high compression is the bomb. marko   On 2024-06-29 9:08 pm, TomDressler wrote: > Hey all, > Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike? > Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so it > prefers >90. > Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to > preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas. > Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes > it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well. > Im just curious… > Thanks. > > …Tom > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net Mailto: %(user_address)s
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ducdude@verizon.net
Tue, Jul 2, 2024 11:09 AM

That and 100LL AV gas is formulated to run best at steady RPMs idle, 50% , 100%  not so much the variable rpms we see on our motorcycles.  If caught the penalties are quite stiff in monetary fines and or jail time or both.  According to the internet, Lead also interferes with neuronal migration, cell proliferation and synapse formation in the brain. The consequences are loss of intelligence and disruption of behavior and neurological degeneration . Because the brain has little capacity for repair, these effects are permanent and untreatable.

Seems like a lot of risk,  just run fuel without alcohol in your Duc with a 90 octane unless your compression is very high that should do just fine.

Ride safely,
Eric

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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2024 07:04 PM
To: Ducati Owners Group ducati@list.ducati.net
Subject: [Ducati] Re: Av Gas?

You want to run the lowest octane you can without pre detonation.  The additives for high octane are intended to make it not burn well and will reduce power.  It's done for high compression, as that and whatever else is going on needs not to pre detonate.  E85 burns so poorly but for boost or high compression is the bomb.

marko

On 2024-06-29 9:08 pm, TomDressler wrote:

Hey all,
Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike?
Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so
it prefers >90.
Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to
preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas.
Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes
it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well.
Im just curious…
Thanks.

…Tom

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That and 100LL AV gas is formulated to run best at steady RPMs idle, 50% , 100% not so much the variable rpms we see on our motorcycles. If caught the penalties are quite stiff in monetary fines and or jail time or both. According to the internet, Lead also interferes with neuronal migration, cell proliferation and synapse formation in the brain. The consequences are loss of intelligence and disruption of behavior and neurological degeneration . Because the brain has little capacity for repair, these effects are permanent and untreatable. Seems like a lot of risk, just run fuel without alcohol in your Duc with a 90 octane unless your compression is very high that should do just fine. Ride safely, Eric -----Original Message----- From: goducati@hutchtel.net <goducati@hutchtel.net> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2024 07:04 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Av Gas? You want to run the lowest octane you can without pre detonation. The additives for high octane are intended to make it not burn well and will reduce power. It's done for high compression, as that and whatever else is going on needs not to pre detonate. E85 burns so poorly but for boost or high compression is the bomb. marko On 2024-06-29 9:08 pm, TomDressler wrote: > Hey all, > Has anyone tried aviation gas in their bike? > Ive got a ‘95 SSCR with rejetted carbs and hi compression pistons so > it prefers >90. > Recently, i started using Non-Ethanol gas in another bike i have to > preserve the plastic tank but then thought about AvGas. > Its 100 octane with lead. A technician at the local FBO said he mixes > it 50/50 with mid-octane in his HD and it runs well. > Im just curious… > Thanks. > > …Tom > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net To unsubscribe send an > email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s