Gee-P
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so not a good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9 feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10 years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win (which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider aides are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I mention that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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Note - Moto3 times are eclipsing 500GP times for the first time ever.
Not a lot of rider aids on those bikes either...
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:16 AM Peejay Burre morinimoe@gmail.com wrote:
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so not a good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9 feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10 years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win (which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider aides are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I mention that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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So are modern road bikes.
New tech, new breed.
Does Phil’s keyboard have flight feathers?
..love the way he ‘writes’ his messages..
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:19 Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:
Note - Moto3 times are eclipsing 500GP times for the first time ever.
Not a lot of rider aids on those bikes either...
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:16 AM Peejay Burre morinimoe@gmail.com wrote:
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so not
a good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find
his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9
feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10
years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win
(which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider aides
are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I mention
that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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Agreed about Qatar. I will spare my friends any political rant about
building a racetrack in a desert and then spending a fortune on lighting it
because it's too friggin' to race in the daytime. I will say this: will I
think it's a bad idea (read: stupid and dangerous) to race under
floodlights like that, it does make those immaculate machines look even
more sparkling and cherry.
And, yes, MM is still learning. He said himself that he has to unlearn the
years with Honda and the techniques that are now automatic. He also said
that in the heat of the race, he tends to fall back in to an autopilot. He
will get faster. Whether he will ride with a bit more caution remains to be
seen. I'm hoping that he and Acosta will quickly get up to speed.
Yesterday, they gave us a hint of what battles they could have fighting for
positions or podium steps. Pedro doesn't seem to have any fear of MM, nor
does he grant him any quarter.
Then there's Pecco, there's Binder, there's Alex Marquez, there's - well,
the list is pretty long.
Now about the electronics: at the risk of raising a few of the hackles of
those who cannot forgive him, I watched a recent interview with Dani
Pedrosa. There was a question about whether he preferred the new bikes with
the electronics and aeros and such, or the earlier ones. He was pretty
definitive ("easy question") that he preferred the earlier ones, "... they
were more fun, for sure."
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 15:16, Peejay Burre morinimoe@gmail.com wrote:
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so not a
good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find his
way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9 feline
lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10 years
ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win (which
outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider aides
are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I mention
that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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Marquez looks a bit stiff turning right, but overall he performed really
well. I wonder if it’s mental or it’s his right arm.
I think he’s always learning and studying , even when behind JM. Time
will tell.
It would be a totally different race if he’s still in his dominant stage on
a “proper” Honda. But Let’s forget about that, that’s old news for now.
PA31 reminded me of young Marquez’s rookie years, all excited and making
mistakes, but the difference is he won races. We’ll see!
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 13:33 Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com
wrote:
Agreed about Qatar. I will spare my friends any political rant about
building a racetrack in a desert and then spending a fortune on lighting it
because it's too friggin' to race in the daytime. I will say this: will I
think it's a bad idea (read: stupid and dangerous) to race under
floodlights like that, it does make those immaculate machines look even
more sparkling and cherry.
And, yes, MM is still learning. He said himself that he has to unlearn the
years with Honda and the techniques that are now automatic. He also said
that in the heat of the race, he tends to fall back in to an autopilot. He
will get faster. Whether he will ride with a bit more caution remains to be
seen. I'm hoping that he and Acosta will quickly get up to speed.
Yesterday, they gave us a hint of what battles they could have fighting for
positions or podium steps. Pedro doesn't seem to have any fear of MM, nor
does he grant him any quarter.
Then there's Pecco, there's Binder, there's Alex Marquez, there's - well,
the list is pretty long.
Now about the electronics: at the risk of raising a few of the hackles of
those who cannot forgive him, I watched a recent interview with Dani
Pedrosa. There was a question about whether he preferred the new bikes with
the electronics and aeros and such, or the earlier ones. He was pretty
definitive ("easy question") that he preferred the earlier ones, "... they
were more fun, for sure."
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 15:16, Peejay Burre morinimoe@gmail.com wrote:
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so not a
good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find
his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9
feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10
years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win
(which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider aides
are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I mention
that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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MM has himself said the perfect track for him would be all lefts.
Pags
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 2:36 PM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:
Marquez looks a bit stiff turning right, but overall he performed really well. I wonder if it’s mental or it’s his right arm.
I think he’s always learning and studying , even when behind JM. Time will tell.
It would be a totally different race if he’s still in his dominant stage on a “proper” Honda. But Let’s forget about that, that’s old news for now.
PA31 reminded me of young Marquez’s rookie years, all excited and making mistakes, but the difference is he won races. We’ll see!
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 13:33 Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed about Qatar. I will spare my friends any political rant about building a racetrack in a desert and then spending a fortune on lighting it because it's too friggin' to race in the daytime. I will say this: will I think it's a bad idea (read: stupid and dangerous) to race under floodlights like that, it does make those immaculate machines look even more sparkling and cherry.
And, yes, MM is still learning. He said himself that he has to unlearn the years with Honda and the techniques that are now automatic. He also said that in the heat of the race, he tends to fall back in to an autopilot. He will get faster. Whether he will ride with a bit more caution remains to be seen. I'm hoping that he and Acosta will quickly get up to speed. Yesterday, they gave us a hint of what battles they could have fighting for positions or podium steps. Pedro doesn't seem to have any fear of MM, nor does he grant him any quarter.
Then there's Pecco, there's Binder, there's Alex Marquez, there's - well, the list is pretty long.
Now about the electronics: at the risk of raising a few of the hackles of those who cannot forgive him, I watched a recent interview with Dani Pedrosa. There was a question about whether he preferred the new bikes with the electronics and aeros and such, or the earlier ones. He was pretty definitive ("easy question") that he preferred the earlier ones, "... they were more fun, for sure."
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 15:16, Peejay Burre morinimoe@gmail.com wrote:
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so not a good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9 feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10 years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win (which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider aides are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I mention that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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Didn't they build that track a few years back. I can't remember the
country, but I think M.C. Escher was the designer.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 20:28, Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:
MM has himself said the perfect track for him would be all lefts.
Pags
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 2:36 PM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:
Marquez looks a bit stiff turning right, but overall he performed really
well. I wonder if it’s mental or it’s his right arm.
I think he’s always learning and studying , even when behind JM. Time
will tell.
It would be a totally different race if he’s still in his dominant stage
on a “proper” Honda. But Let’s forget about that, that’s old news for now.
PA31 reminded me of young Marquez’s rookie years, all excited and
making mistakes, but the difference is he won races. We’ll see!
sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 13:33 Kevin Kachadourian <
kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed about Qatar. I will spare my friends any political rant about
building a racetrack in a desert and then spending a fortune on lighting it
because it's too friggin' to race in the daytime. I will say this: will I
think it's a bad idea (read: stupid and dangerous) to race under
floodlights like that, it does make those immaculate machines look even
more sparkling and cherry.
And, yes, MM is still learning. He said himself that he has to unlearn
the years with Honda and the techniques that are now automatic. He also
said that in the heat of the race, he tends to fall back in to an
autopilot. He will get faster. Whether he will ride with a bit more caution
remains to be seen. I'm hoping that he and Acosta will quickly get up to
speed. Yesterday, they gave us a hint of what battles they could have
fighting for positions or podium steps. Pedro doesn't seem to have any fear
of MM, nor does he grant him any quarter.
Then there's Pecco, there's Binder, there's Alex Marquez, there's -
well, the list is pretty long.
Now about the electronics: at the risk of raising a few of the hackles
of those who cannot forgive him, I watched a recent interview with Dani
Pedrosa. There was a question about whether he preferred the new bikes with
the electronics and aeros and such, or the earlier ones. He was pretty
definitive ("easy question") that he preferred the earlier ones, "... they
were more fun, for sure."
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 15:16, Peejay Burre morinimoe@gmail.com wrote:
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so
not a good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find
his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9
feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10
years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win
(which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider
aides are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I
mention that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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Does anyone have the actual qualifications lap times from last year and
this year’s in Qatar?
Quick search yielded these:
Last year:
Pecco 2023 Bike: 1’52.036
This year:
Pecco 2024 Bike: 1’50.928
———-
This year:
MMarquez 2023 Bike: 1’50.961
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 15:54 Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com
wrote:
Didn't they build that track a few years back. I can't remember the
country, but I think M.C. Escher was the designer.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 20:28, Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:
MM has himself said the perfect track for him would be all lefts.
Pags
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 2:36 PM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:
Marquez looks a bit stiff turning right, but overall he performed
really well. I wonder if it’s mental or it’s his right arm.
I think he’s always learning and studying , even when behind JM. Time
will tell.
It would be a totally different race if he’s still in his dominant
stage on a “proper” Honda. But Let’s forget about that, that’s old news
for now.
PA31 reminded me of young Marquez’s rookie years, all excited and
making mistakes, but the difference is he won races. We’ll see!
sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 13:33 Kevin Kachadourian <
kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed about Qatar. I will spare my friends any political rant about
building a racetrack in a desert and then spending a fortune on lighting it
because it's too friggin' to race in the daytime. I will say this: will I
think it's a bad idea (read: stupid and dangerous) to race under
floodlights like that, it does make those immaculate machines look even
more sparkling and cherry.
And, yes, MM is still learning. He said himself that he has to unlearn
the years with Honda and the techniques that are now automatic. He also
said that in the heat of the race, he tends to fall back in to an
autopilot. He will get faster. Whether he will ride with a bit more caution
remains to be seen. I'm hoping that he and Acosta will quickly get up to
speed. Yesterday, they gave us a hint of what battles they could have
fighting for positions or podium steps. Pedro doesn't seem to have any fear
of MM, nor does he grant him any quarter.
Then there's Pecco, there's Binder, there's Alex Marquez, there's -
well, the list is pretty long.
Now about the electronics: at the risk of raising a few of the hackles
of those who cannot forgive him, I watched a recent interview with Dani
Pedrosa. There was a question about whether he preferred the new bikes with
the electronics and aeros and such, or the earlier ones. He was pretty
definitive ("easy question") that he preferred the earlier ones, "... they
were more fun, for sure."
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 15:16, Peejay Burre morinimoe@gmail.com
wrote:
Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so
not a good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s
find his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9
feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10
years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win
(which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
All in all a very solid Bologna day!
PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider
aides are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I
mention that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
Phil/NJ
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I believe the tires have changed dramatically this year too.
On Mar 11, 2024, at 10:31 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone have the actual qualifications lap times from last year and this year’s in Qatar?
Quick search yielded these:
Last year:
Pecco 2023 Bike: 1’52.036
This year:
Pecco 2024 Bike: 1’50.928
———-
This year:
MMarquez 2023 Bike: 1’50.961
sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 15:54 Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote:
Didn't they build that track a few years back. I can't remember the country, but I think M.C. Escher was the designer.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 20:28, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote:
MM has himself said the perfect track for him would be all lefts.
Pags
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 2:36 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Marquez looks a bit stiff turning right, but overall he performed really well. I wonder if it’s mental or it’s his right arm.
> I think he’s always learning and studying , even when behind JM. Time will tell.
>
> It would be a totally different race if he’s still in his dominant stage on a “proper” Honda. But Let’s forget about that, that’s old news for now.
>
> PA31 reminded me of young Marquez’s rookie years, all excited and making mistakes, but the difference is he won races. We’ll see!
>
>
>
> sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 13:33 Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed about Qatar. I will spare my friends any political rant about building a racetrack in a desert and then spending a fortune on lighting it because it's too friggin' to race in the daytime. I will say this: will I think it's a bad idea (read: stupid and dangerous) to race under floodlights like that, it does make those immaculate machines look even more sparkling and cherry.
>>
>> And, yes, MM is still learning. He said himself that he has to unlearn the years with Honda and the techniques that are now automatic. He also said that in the heat of the race, he tends to fall back in to an autopilot. He will get faster. Whether he will ride with a bit more caution remains to be seen. I'm hoping that he and Acosta will quickly get up to speed. Yesterday, they gave us a hint of what battles they could have fighting for positions or podium steps. Pedro doesn't seem to have any fear of MM, nor does he grant him any quarter.
>>
>> Then there's Pecco, there's Binder, there's Alex Marquez, there's - well, the list is pretty long.
>>
>> Now about the electronics: at the risk of raising a few of the hackles of those who cannot forgive him, I watched a recent interview with Dani Pedrosa. There was a question about whether he preferred the new bikes with the electronics and aeros and such, or the earlier ones. He was pretty definitive ("easy question") that he preferred the earlier ones, "... they were more fun, for sure."
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 15:16, Peejay Burre <morinimoe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kev K, As far as I’m aware Qatar, as a circuit, is an outlier so not a good harbinger. Of course the caveat here is what do I know!
>>> Lan, I think 93 isn’t yet comfy on the Duc but in short order’s find his way. He’s no spring chicken though & must’ve used up many of his 9 feline lifes. One could reasonably expect MM won’t be as f’n crazy as 5-10 years ago BUT I would expect that style if he were in the mix for a win (which outta be oft) & definitely if the Title is in the balance.
>>> All in all a very solid Bologna day!
>>> PS. ‘Tis a deep & talented field but until electronic rider aides are history no group’ll eclipse the early ‘80s- late ‘90s. Did I mention that Cal Rayborn is the apex?
>>> Phil/NJ
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
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