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TomDressler
Wed, Jan 24, 2024 12:39 PM

Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development getting approved.
C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community along Highway 68, Monterey County

corraldetierra.com

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Wed, Jan 24, 2024 12:42 PM

Sorry, forgot this one also.Airports also, although this one was about MRY expanding.

cb6831dc-dc96-11e4-9beb-1bfa79572749.jpgAirport Settles with Highway 68 Coalition, Plans Scaled-Down Version of Runway Expansion Project

montereycountyweekly.com

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Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development getting approved.
C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community along Highway 68, Monterey County

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Wed, Jan 24, 2024 12:56 PM

….and the complaint

preview.png2024-01-18-s54766complaint-

PDF Document · 7.3 MB

…Tom

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Sorry, forgot this one also.Airports also, although this one was about MRY expanding.

<cb6831dc-dc96-11e4-9beb-1bfa79572749.jpg>

Airport Settles with Highway 68 Coalition, Plans Scaled-Down Version of Runway Expansion Project

montereycountyweekly.com

…Tom

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Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development getting approved.
C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community along Highway 68, Monterey County

corraldetierra.com

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stephen abramson
Wed, Jan 24, 2024 2:17 PM

So much gobbledegook….. not poking fun at the specific complaint, just the
whole process of things having to be laid out in so many words, much of
which seems quite redundant. Also not looking to “quarrel” with any
attorneys on the list about the necessary merits of having things spelled
out so laboriously. I get it. When I started my (recently closed) home
remodeling business 43 yrs ago, a great majority of the work I did was done
with handshakes instead of signatures, but as time went by it was clear
that written words and signatures were needed to avoid any confusion or
conflicts in understanding about scope of work. Essentially, it meant if we
say we’re going to do something we’ll do it-if we don’t specifically say we
are going to do something, don’t expect or assume it is included in the
contract. Words have meaning. Speaking directly out of my legal ass, I
doubt the lawsuit will be upheld in its present form. Maybe the track will
be leveraged into certain concessions of some sort, but I doubt they’ll be
forced to stop operations. If the time frame for the legal process to pan
out regarding that shopping mall up the road is any indication of the
potential glacier-like crawl of court actions, it might take years for the
Laguna litigation to be finalized. Just a poor carpenter’s take……

STeveGT

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:57 AM TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

….and the complaint

[image: preview.png]

2024-01-18-s54766complaint-
https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf
PDF Document · 7.3 MB
https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf

https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf

…Tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:42 AM, TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry, forgot this one also.

Airports also, although this one was about MRY expanding.

<cb6831dc-dc96-11e4-9beb-1bfa79572749.jpg>
Airport Settles with Highway 68 Coalition, Plans Scaled-Down Version of
Runway Expansion Project
https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html
montereycountyweekly.com
https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html

https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html

…Tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:40 AM, TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development
getting approved.

C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community
along Highway 68, Monterey County https://www.corraldetierra.com/
corraldetierra.com https://www.corraldetierra.com/
https://www.corraldetierra.com/ https://www.corraldetierra.com/

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So much gobbledegook….. not poking fun at the specific complaint, just the whole process of things having to be laid out in so many words, much of which seems quite redundant. Also not looking to “quarrel” with any attorneys on the list about the necessary merits of having things spelled out so laboriously. I get it. When I started my (recently closed) home remodeling business 43 yrs ago, a great majority of the work I did was done with handshakes instead of signatures, but as time went by it was clear that written words and signatures were needed to avoid any confusion or conflicts in understanding about scope of work. Essentially, it meant if we say we’re going to do something we’ll do it-if we don’t specifically say we are going to do something, don’t expect or assume it is included in the contract. Words have meaning. Speaking directly out of my legal ass, I doubt the lawsuit will be upheld in its present form. Maybe the track will be leveraged into certain concessions of some sort, but I doubt they’ll be forced to stop operations. If the time frame for the legal process to pan out regarding that shopping mall up the road is any indication of the potential glacier-like crawl of court actions, it might take years for the Laguna litigation to be finalized. Just a poor carpenter’s take…… STeveGT On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:57 AM TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: > ….and the complaint > > [image: preview.png] > > 2024-01-18-s54766complaint- > <https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf> > PDF Document · 7.3 MB > <https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf> > > <https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf> > > > …Tom > > On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:42 AM, TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry, forgot this one also. > > Airports also, although this one was about MRY expanding. > > <cb6831dc-dc96-11e4-9beb-1bfa79572749.jpg> > Airport Settles with Highway 68 Coalition, Plans Scaled-Down Version of > Runway Expansion Project > <https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html> > montereycountyweekly.com > <https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html> > > <https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html> > > > …Tom > > On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:40 AM, TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: > > Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development > getting approved. > > C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community > along Highway 68, Monterey County <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> > corraldetierra.com <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> > <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> > > …Tom > > On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:30 AM, ducati-request@list.ducati.net wrote: > > Send Ducati mailing list submissions to > ducati@list.ducati.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > ducati-request@list.ducati.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ducati-owner@list.ducati.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ducati digest..."Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CHECK THIS OUT (Peer Landa) > 2. A world without Laguna Seca (Gleeb Gliber Galactica Gavorti) > <mime-attachment> > <mime-attachment> > > > Check out Ductalk.com for an addictive mix of the best Ducati news items. > > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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TomD
Wed, Jan 24, 2024 4:36 PM

Same plaintiff resisted the other one as well.Per locals, he’s a litigious PITA.

....tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:17 AM, stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote:

So much gobbledegook….. not poking fun at the specific complaint, just the whole process of things having to be laid out in so many words, much of which seems quite redundant. Also not looking to “quarrel” with any attorneys on the list about the necessary merits of having things spelled out so laboriously. I get it. When I started my (recently closed) home remodeling business 43 yrs ago, a great majority of the work I did was done with handshakes instead of signatures, but as time went by it was clear that written words and signatures were needed to avoid any confusion or conflicts in understanding about scope of work. Essentially, it meant if we say we’re going to do something we’ll do it-if we don’t specifically say we are going to do something, don’t expect or assume it is included in the contract. Words have meaning. Speaking directly out of my legal ass, I doubt the lawsuit will be upheld in its present form. Maybe the track will be leveraged into certain concessions of some sort, but I doubt they’ll be forced to stop operations. If the time frame for the legal process to pan out regarding that shopping mall up the road is any indication of the potential glacier-like crawl of court actions, it might take years for the Laguna litigation to be finalized. Just a poor carpenter’s take……

STeveGT

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:57 AM TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote:

….and the complaint

<preview.png>

2024-01-18-s54766complaint-

PDF Document · 7.3 MB

…Tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:42 AM, TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, forgot this one also.

Airports also, although this one was about MRY expanding.

<cb6831dc-dc96-11e4-9beb-1bfa79572749.jpg>

Airport Settles with Highway 68 Coalition, Plans Scaled-Down Version of Runway Expansion Project

montereycountyweekly.com

…Tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:40 AM, TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote:

Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development getting approved.
C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community along Highway 68, Monterey County

corraldetierra.com

…Tom

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Wed, Jan 24, 2024 6:38 PM

Ahhhh….. that’ll do it

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 11:37 AM TomD tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

Same plaintiff resisted the other one as well.
Per locals, he’s a litigious PITA.

....tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:17 AM, stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com
wrote:


So much gobbledegook….. not poking fun at the specific complaint, just the
whole process of things having to be laid out in so many words, much of
which seems quite redundant. Also not looking to “quarrel” with any
attorneys on the list about the necessary merits of having things spelled
out so laboriously. I get it. When I started my (recently closed) home
remodeling business 43 yrs ago, a great majority of the work I did was done
with handshakes instead of signatures, but as time went by it was clear
that written words and signatures were needed to avoid any confusion or
conflicts in understanding about scope of work. Essentially, it meant if we
say we’re going to do something we’ll do it-if we don’t specifically say we
are going to do something, don’t expect or assume it is included in the
contract. Words have meaning. Speaking directly out of my legal ass, I
doubt the lawsuit will be upheld in its present form. Maybe the track will
be leveraged into certain concessions of some sort, but I doubt they’ll be
forced to stop operations. If the time frame for the legal process to pan
out regarding that shopping mall up the road is any indication of the
potential glacier-like crawl of court actions, it might take years for the
Laguna litigation to be finalized. Just a poor carpenter’s take……

STeveGT

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:57 AM TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

….and the complaint

<preview.png>
2024-01-18-s54766complaint-
https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf
PDF Document · 7.3 MB
https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf

https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf

…Tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:42 AM, TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry, forgot this one also.

Airports also, although this one was about MRY expanding.

<cb6831dc-dc96-11e4-9beb-1bfa79572749.jpg>
Airport Settles with Highway 68 Coalition, Plans Scaled-Down Version of
Runway Expansion Project
https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html
montereycountyweekly.com
https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html

https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html

…Tom

On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:40 AM, TomDressler tbrduc@gmail.com wrote:

Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development
getting approved.

C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community
along Highway 68, Monterey County https://www.corraldetierra.com/
corraldetierra.com https://www.corraldetierra.com/
https://www.corraldetierra.com/ https://www.corraldetierra.com/

…Tom

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Ahhhh….. that’ll do it On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 11:37 AM TomD <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: > Same plaintiff resisted the other one as well. > Per locals, he’s a litigious PITA. > > ....tom > > On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:17 AM, stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > wrote: > >  > So much gobbledegook….. not poking fun at the specific complaint, just the > whole process of things having to be laid out in so many words, much of > which seems quite redundant. Also not looking to “quarrel” with any > attorneys on the list about the necessary merits of having things spelled > out so laboriously. I get it. When I started my (recently closed) home > remodeling business 43 yrs ago, a great majority of the work I did was done > with handshakes instead of signatures, but as time went by it was clear > that written words and signatures were needed to avoid any confusion or > conflicts in understanding about scope of work. Essentially, it meant if we > say we’re going to do something we’ll do it-if we don’t specifically say we > are going to do something, don’t expect or assume it is included in the > contract. Words have meaning. Speaking directly out of my legal ass, I > doubt the lawsuit will be upheld in its present form. Maybe the track will > be leveraged into certain concessions of some sort, but I doubt they’ll be > forced to stop operations. If the time frame for the legal process to pan > out regarding that shopping mall up the road is any indication of the > potential glacier-like crawl of court actions, it might take years for the > Laguna litigation to be finalized. Just a poor carpenter’s take…… > > STeveGT > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:57 AM TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ….and the complaint >> >> <preview.png> >> 2024-01-18-s54766complaint- >> <https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf> >> PDF Document · 7.3 MB >> <https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf> >> >> <https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2024/01/19/2024-01-18-s54766complaint-.pdf> >> >> >> …Tom >> >> On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:42 AM, TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Sorry, forgot this one also. >> >> Airports also, although this one was about MRY expanding. >> >> <cb6831dc-dc96-11e4-9beb-1bfa79572749.jpg> >> Airport Settles with Highway 68 Coalition, Plans Scaled-Down Version of >> Runway Expansion Project >> <https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html> >> montereycountyweekly.com >> <https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html> >> >> <https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/airport-settles-with-highway-68-coalition-plans-scaled-down-version-of-runway-expansion-project/article_a9790e46-060c-11e3-85ee-001a4bcf6878.html> >> >> >> …Tom >> >> On Jan 24, 2024, at 7:40 AM, TomDressler <tbrduc@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Meanwhile, not far down 68.. from the track, we have this development >> getting approved. >> >> C O R R A L D E T I E R R A | Corral de Tierra, California | Community >> along Highway 68, Monterey County <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> >> corraldetierra.com <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> >> <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> <https://www.corraldetierra.com/> >> >> …Tom >> >> On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:30 AM, ducati-request@list.ducati.net wrote: >> >> Send Ducati mailing list submissions to >> ducati@list.ducati.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or >> body 'help' to >> ducati-request@list.ducati.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ducati-owner@list.ducati.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Ducati digest..."Today's Topics: >> >> 1. 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