Dream ride (Could be Ducati content)

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stephen abramson
Tue, Aug 6, 2024 11:42 AM

Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the high
country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've got a
hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on the 2019
EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an epic ride
that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some light off road
as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the bikes we select to
rent are of slightly less importance than the route (ST1300 and Tracer 9
GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and present) we take, so I'm
throwing out some thoughts to the list for some juice that anyone would
have to share about what general section of the country might be considered
the "best" area to target for the combination of both asphalt enjoyment and
destination enjoyment. I took a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West
coast and a combined 10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage
trips out to many national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up
and down California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a
different conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the
trip would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two
wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I consider
"out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although sometimes you
need some superslab here and there to move from one distinct area to
another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads for most of our
travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a few of you would like
to share some of your experiences to help develop a plan. I'm recently
retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how much time my son can yank
out of his work schedule, but the trip would be a minimum of one week
(would certainly like to do more). Thank you very much to anyone who cares
to jump in.

Steve

Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the high country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've got a hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on the 2019 EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an epic ride that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some light off road as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the bikes we select to rent are of slightly less importance than the route (ST1300 and Tracer 9 GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and present) we take, so I'm throwing out some thoughts to the list for some juice that anyone would have to share about what general section of the country might be considered the "best" area to target for the combination of both asphalt enjoyment and destination enjoyment. I took a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West coast and a combined 10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage trips out to many national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up and down California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a different conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the trip would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I consider "out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although sometimes you need some superslab here and there to move from one distinct area to another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads for most of our travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a few of you would like to share some of your experiences to help develop a plan. I'm recently retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how much time my son can yank out of his work schedule, but the trip would be a minimum of one week (would certainly like to do more). Thank you very much to anyone who cares to jump in. Steve
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Tony Pags
Tue, Aug 6, 2024 1:22 PM

Possible option - call Vegas home base, do day, or multi-day trips
from there.  Bryce, Zion, death valley, hoover dam, etc.  Favorite
part of the country - but also Yellowstone is magical of course.

You didn't mention if you wanted to dual sport this one, or stick to
strictly roads?

Pags

On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:42 AM stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com wrote:

Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the high country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've got a hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on the 2019 EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an epic ride that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some light off road as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the bikes we select to rent are of slightly less importance than the route (ST1300 and Tracer 9 GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and present) we take, so I'm throwing out some thoughts to the list for some juice that anyone would have to share about what general section of the country might be considered the "best" area to target for the combination of both asphalt enjoyment and destination enjoyment. I took a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West coast and a combined 10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage trips out to many national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up and down California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a different conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the trip would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I consider "out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although sometimes you need some superslab here and there to move from one distinct area to another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads for most of our travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a few of you would like to share some of your experiences to help develop a plan. I'm recently retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how much time my son can yank out of his work schedule, but the trip would be a minimum of one week (would certainly like to do more). Thank you very much to anyone who cares to jump in.

Steve

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Possible option - call Vegas home base, do day, or multi-day trips from there. Bryce, Zion, death valley, hoover dam, etc. Favorite part of the country - but also Yellowstone is magical of course. You didn't mention if you wanted to dual sport this one, or stick to strictly roads? Pags On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:42 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: > > Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the high country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've got a hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on the 2019 EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an epic ride that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some light off road as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the bikes we select to rent are of slightly less importance than the route (ST1300 and Tracer 9 GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and present) we take, so I'm throwing out some thoughts to the list for some juice that anyone would have to share about what general section of the country might be considered the "best" area to target for the combination of both asphalt enjoyment and destination enjoyment. I took a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West coast and a combined 10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage trips out to many national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up and down California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a different conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the trip would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I consider "out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although sometimes you need some superslab here and there to move from one distinct area to another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads for most of our travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a few of you would like to share some of your experiences to help develop a plan. I'm recently retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how much time my son can yank out of his work schedule, but the trip would be a minimum of one week (would certainly like to do more). Thank you very much to anyone who cares to jump in. > > Steve > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s -- Tony Pagliaroli (908) 883-0691
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stephen abramson
Tue, Aug 6, 2024 2:15 PM

The Vegas staging point is definitely a thing I'm looking at, but ideally
it would be the rental point to start and then do a "convoluted circle or
figure 8" like we did in Ecuador, staying in different spots each night. I
think this particular trip will be mostly pavement, but ideally would love
to be on something that we could do some manageable off-road as well when
the opportunity/desire presents itself. Been to all the parks you've
mentioned, but we'd have to see how much time we have in order to
potentially string the AZ/UT stuff with the WY/SD destinations.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 9:22 AM Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Possible option - call Vegas home base, do day, or multi-day trips
from there.  Bryce, Zion, death valley, hoover dam, etc.  Favorite
part of the country - but also Yellowstone is magical of course.

You didn't mention if you wanted to dual sport this one, or stick to
strictly roads?

Pags

On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:42 AM stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com
wrote:

Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the

high country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've got a
hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on the 2019
EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an epic ride
that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some light off road
as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the bikes we select to
rent are of slightly less importance than the route (ST1300 and Tracer 9
GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and present) we take, so I'm
throwing out some thoughts to the list for some juice that anyone would
have to share about what general section of the country might be considered
the "best" area to target for the combination of both asphalt enjoyment and
destination enjoyment. I took a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West
coast and a combined 10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage
trips out to many national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up
and down California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a
different conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the
trip would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two
wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I consider
"out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although sometimes you
need some superslab here and there to move from one distinct area to
another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads for most of our
travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a few of you would like
to share some of your experiences to help develop a plan. I'm recently
retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how much time my son can yank
out of his work schedule, but the trip would be a minimum of one week
(would certainly like to do more). Thank you very much to anyone who cares
to jump in.

Steve

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The Vegas staging point is definitely a thing I'm looking at, but ideally it would be the rental point to start and then do a "convoluted circle or figure 8" like we did in Ecuador, staying in different spots each night. I think this particular trip will be mostly pavement, but ideally would love to be on something that we could do some manageable off-road as well when the opportunity/desire presents itself. Been to all the parks you've mentioned, but we'd have to see how much time we have in order to potentially string the AZ/UT stuff with the WY/SD destinations. On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 9:22 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Possible option - call Vegas home base, do day, or multi-day trips > from there. Bryce, Zion, death valley, hoover dam, etc. Favorite > part of the country - but also Yellowstone is magical of course. > > You didn't mention if you wanted to dual sport this one, or stick to > strictly roads? > > Pags > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:42 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the > high country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've got a > hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on the 2019 > EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an epic ride > that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some light off road > as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the bikes we select to > rent are of slightly less importance than the route (ST1300 and Tracer 9 > GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and present) we take, so I'm > throwing out some thoughts to the list for some juice that anyone would > have to share about what general section of the country might be considered > the "best" area to target for the combination of both asphalt enjoyment and > destination enjoyment. I took a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West > coast and a combined 10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage > trips out to many national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up > and down California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a > different conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the > trip would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two > wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I consider > "out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although sometimes you > need some superslab here and there to move from one distinct area to > another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads for most of our > travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a few of you would like > to share some of your experiences to help develop a plan. I'm recently > retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how much time my son can yank > out of his work schedule, but the trip would be a minimum of one week > (would certainly like to do more). Thank you very much to anyone who cares > to jump in. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > > Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > -- > Tony Pagliaroli > (908) 883-0691 > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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sean t
Tue, Aug 6, 2024 4:07 PM

I'd second the Vegas jump point.  I've used it to launch several bike
trips, some on rentals and some on my own bike.  And north through Utah
will quickly see some elevation change, pine trees and twistier roads.
Just after Zion (you don't need to be sold on Zion it seems), is a
crossroads where you either choose northeast or south east.  One is a
gateway to Bryce and Escalante and the other (89) to Glen Canyon dam,
Monument Valley and Moab (both good for different reasons).  And you're
still in southern Utah.  From there I did one trip through Flaming Gorge
in north eastern Utah, to Wyoming, then across Idaho along the Snake
River and on to Bend OR before turning south again.  This was in May,
and the mix of weather was good (cold mornings, warming throughout the
day).
Sean

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Sent: 8/6/2024 4:42:17 AM
Subject: [Ducati] Dream ride (Could be Ducati content)

Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the
high country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've
got a hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on
the 2019 EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an
epic ride that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some
light off road as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the
bikes we select to rent are of slightly less importance than the route
(ST1300 and Tracer 9 GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and
present) we take, so I'm throwing out some thoughts to the list for
some juice that anyone would have to share about what general section
of the country might be considered the "best" area to target for the
combination of both asphalt enjoyment and destination enjoyment. I took
a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West coast and a combined
10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage trips out to many
national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up and down
California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a different
conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the trip
would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two
wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I
consider "out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although
sometimes you need some superslab here and there to move from one
distinct area to another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads
for most of our travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a
few of you would like to share some of your experiences to help develop
a plan. I'm recently retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how
much time my son can yank out of his work schedule, but the trip would
be a minimum of one week (would certainly like to do more). Thank you
very much to anyone who cares to jump in.

Steve

I'd second the Vegas jump point. I've used it to launch several bike trips, some on rentals and some on my own bike. And north through Utah will quickly see some elevation change, pine trees and twistier roads. Just after Zion (you don't need to be sold on Zion it seems), is a crossroads where you either choose northeast or south east. One is a gateway to Bryce and Escalante and the other (89) to Glen Canyon dam, Monument Valley and Moab (both good for different reasons). And you're still in southern Utah. From there I did one trip through Flaming Gorge in north eastern Utah, to Wyoming, then across Idaho along the Snake River and on to Bend OR before turning south again. This was in May, and the mix of weather was good (cold mornings, warming throughout the day). Sean ------ Original Message ------ From: "stephen abramson" <desmo900cr@gmail.com> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net> Sent: 8/6/2024 4:42:17 AM Subject: [Ducati] Dream ride (Could be Ducati content) >Good morning, all. After having done two fairly tough ADV tours of the >high country in Ecuador with Pags over the past bunch of years, I've >got a hankering to show the western USA to my son, who participated on >the 2019 EcWOAHdor trip. Looking at what kind of split to create for an >epic ride that would likely be mostly pavement, but might cover some >light off road as well (Ecuador was very much mostly off-road), the >bikes we select to rent are of slightly less importance than the route >(ST1300 and Tracer 9 GT+ as my sport touring steeds of the past and >present) we take, so I'm throwing out some thoughts to the list for >some juice that anyone would have to share about what general section >of the country might be considered the "best" area to target for the >combination of both asphalt enjoyment and destination enjoyment. I took >a KZ1000 from home in Jersey out to the West coast and a combined >10,000 miles in a former life, and have 3 or 4 cage trips out to many >national parks from the Canyon up to Yellowstone and up and down >California. We can discuss which oil to put in the bike in a different >conversation, but at this VERY early point in my process (the trip >would be next year), who among the group has got some serious two >wheeled coverage from out west? (For the sake of conversation, I >consider "out west" to be anywhere from Colorado westward). Although >sometimes you need some superslab here and there to move from one >distinct area to another, I think I'd like to try and find lesser roads >for most of our travel. With that big mouthful of thoughts, I hope a >few of you would like to share some of your experiences to help develop >a plan. I'm recently retired, so have time on my hands-not sure how >much time my son can yank out of his work schedule, but the trip would >be a minimum of one week (would certainly like to do more). Thank you >very much to anyone who cares to jump in. > >Steve