Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 517, Issue 1

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Gene Hunt
Thu, Oct 12, 2023 1:20 PM

Agree but my excuse is I'm in the middle of a move to Florida so very distracted right now.

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Agree but my excuse is I'm in the middle of a move to Florida so very distracted right now. Got the most important part done, the 4 bikes now reside in Lattitude Margaritaville, Daytona Beach. - Gene "I know a Few Roads" Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club Member ducati.net Ex MSF Instructor Patriot Guard Rider 04' Victory Kingpin 16' Victory Cross Country Tour 02' Ducati Monster 900 13' Ducati Diavel ________________________________ From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 8:30 AM To: ducati@list.ducati.net <ducati@list.ducati.net> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 517, Issue 1 To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C70f68e80e0e34ab45ae308dbcb1f303e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638327107044245375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Km4EyZlwSagJCj7iCarF69ugZnEmr3iQbLfhTdBGE6g%3D&reserved=0<http://www.ductalk.com/> and https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&data=05%7C01%7C%7C70f68e80e0e34ab45ae308dbcb1f303e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638327107044245375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=em9S70Wl7Izo9KnfuFxuXrCXlWEY6lBsEGsKbHTVU6A%3D&reserved=0<https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> _____________________ Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Gene Hunt
Thu, Oct 12, 2023 1:38 PM

And the new MotoGP site sucks.

When cleaning out the house for the move I found an article I wrote on Software Prototyping, 30 years ago. I started the article by saying that we all had heard the saying, "The system meets the requirements but it's not what the user wants" and went on to discuss how involving the user in prototyping of the system could get better results. It turns out the danger in that is the user(s) will drive up cost. Not sure if that is why the new site is so, so bad but I do know it is not what this user wants.

  • Gene

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Subject: [Ducati] Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 517, Issue 1

Agree but my excuse is I'm in the middle of a move to Florida so very distracted right now.

Got the most important part done, the 4 bikes now reside in Lattitude Margaritaville, Daytona Beach. - Gene

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Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club
Member ducati.net
Ex MSF Instructor
Patriot Guard Rider

04' Victory Kingpin
16' Victory Cross Country Tour
02' Ducati Monster 900
13' Ducati Diavel


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And the new MotoGP site sucks. When cleaning out the house for the move I found an article I wrote on Software Prototyping, 30 years ago. I started the article by saying that we all had heard the saying, "The system meets the requirements but it's not what the user wants" and went on to discuss how involving the user in prototyping of the system could get better results. It turns out the danger in that is the user(s) will drive up cost. Not sure if that is why the new site is so, so bad but I do know it is not what this user wants. * Gene "I know a Few Roads" Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club Member ducati.net Ex MSF Instructor Patriot Guard Rider 04' Victory Kingpin 16' Victory Cross Country Tour 02' Ducati Monster 900 13' Ducati Diavel ________________________________ From: Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:20 AM To: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 517, Issue 1 Agree but my excuse is I'm in the middle of a move to Florida so very distracted right now. Got the most important part done, the 4 bikes now reside in Lattitude Margaritaville, Daytona Beach. - Gene "I know a Few Roads" Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club Member ducati.net Ex MSF Instructor Patriot Guard Rider 04' Victory Kingpin 16' Victory Cross Country Tour 02' Ducati Monster 900 13' Ducati Diavel ________________________________ From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 8:30 AM To: ducati@list.ducati.net <ducati@list.ducati.net> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 517, Issue 1 To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C70f68e80e0e34ab45ae308dbcb1f303e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638327107044245375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Km4EyZlwSagJCj7iCarF69ugZnEmr3iQbLfhTdBGE6g%3D&reserved=0<http://www.ductalk.com/> and https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&data=05%7C01%7C%7C70f68e80e0e34ab45ae308dbcb1f303e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638327107044245375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=em9S70Wl7Izo9KnfuFxuXrCXlWEY6lBsEGsKbHTVU6A%3D&reserved=0<https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> _____________________ Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net Mailto: %(user_address)s
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TomD
Thu, Oct 12, 2023 1:47 PM

….and that’s why UX and Agile and SAFe became so popular!😁

....tom

On Oct 12, 2023, at 9:38 AM, Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com> wrote:

 And the new MotoGP site sucks.

When cleaning out the house for the move I found an article I wrote on Software Prototyping, 30 years ago. I started the article by saying that we all had heard the saying, "The system meets the requirements but it's not what the user wants" and went on to discuss how involving the user in prototyping of the system could get better results. It turns out the danger in that is the user(s) will drive up cost. Not sure if that is why the new site is so, so bad but I do know it is not what this user wants.

  • Gene

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Member ducati.net

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16' Victory Cross Country Tour

02' Ducati Monster 900

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From: Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:20 AM
To: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net>
Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Ducati] Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 517, Issue 1

Agree but my excuse is I'm in the middle of a move to Florida so very distracted right now.

Got the most important part done, the 4 bikes now reside in Lattitude Margaritaville, Daytona Beach. - Gene

"I know a Few Roads"

Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association

Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club

Member ducati.net

Ex MSF Instructor

Patriot Guard Rider

04' Victory Kingpin

16' Victory Cross Country Tour

02' Ducati Monster 900

13' Ducati Diavel


From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net>
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Subject: [Ducati] Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 517, Issue 1

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