Argentina MotoGP

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F.C. Hecker
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 2:03 AM

Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race?
My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint
race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to
talk about...

Fred H.

Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race? My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to talk about... Fred H.
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Tony Pagliaroli
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 2:08 AM

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker fheckerduc@gmail.com wrote:


Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race?
My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to talk about...

Fred H.

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Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! Pags > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race? > My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to talk about... > > Fred H. > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Vicki Smith
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 4:35 AM

What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea?
Vicki

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker fheckerduc@gmail.com wrote:


Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race?
My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to talk about...

Fred H.

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What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea? Vicki > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! > > Pags > >> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>  >> Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race? >> My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to talk about... >> >> Fred H. >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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George Betzhold
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 8:23 AM

A HUGE YEA.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023, 12:35 AM Vicki Smith Vicki@ducati.net wrote:

What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea?
Vicki

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker fheckerduc@gmail.com wrote:


Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the

race?

My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint

race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to
talk about...

Fred H.

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A HUGE YEA. On Tue, Apr 4, 2023, 12:35 AM Vicki Smith <Vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea? > Vicki > > > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! > > > > Pags > > > >> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>  > >> Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the > race? > >> My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint > race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to > talk about... > >> > >> Fred H. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > >> http://www.ductalk.com/ > >> and > >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > >> _____________________ > >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > > Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Kevin Kachadourian
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 8:24 AM

New Sprint format? Yea, big yea. So far, the two Sprint races have been
great edge of the seat races.

Now about Sunday's race. Though I generally do not like races in the rain,
the rain really added some additional excitement to this race. I will say
no more for fear of spoiling for anyone who has not yet watched the race.

And, let me add, and ask others about, some of the new production stuff. I
think Dorna has gone a bit too far: graphics superimposed over the
racetrack (it's only a distraction from the racing action), and the long
breaks of video theatrics with riders and trophies and powerful music (I
don't need the extra stimulation, and there's no new information there).

On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 06:35, Vicki Smith Vicki@ducati.net wrote:

What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea?
Vicki

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker fheckerduc@gmail.com wrote:


Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the

race?

My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint

race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to
talk about...

Fred H.

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New Sprint format? Yea, big yea. So far, the two Sprint races have been great edge of the seat races. Now about Sunday's race. Though I generally do not like races in the rain, the rain really added some additional excitement to this race. I will say no more for fear of spoiling for anyone who has not yet watched the race. And, let me add, and ask others about, some of the new production stuff. I think Dorna has gone a bit too far: graphics superimposed over the racetrack (it's only a distraction from the racing action), and the long breaks of video theatrics with riders and trophies and powerful music (I don't need the extra stimulation, and there's no new information there). On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 06:35, Vicki Smith <Vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea? > Vicki > > > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! > > > > Pags > > > >> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>  > >> Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the > race? > >> My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint > race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to > talk about... > >> > >> Fred H. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > >> http://www.ductalk.com/ > >> and > >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > >> _____________________ > >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > > Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Gene Hunt
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 10:19 AM

Love the Sprint - YEAH!

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What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea?
Vicki

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

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Love the Sprint - YEAH! Gene "I know a Few Roads" Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club Member ducati.net Ex MSF Instructor Patriot Guard Rider 04' Victory Kingpin 16' Victory Cross Country Tour 02' Ducati Monster 900 13' Ducati Diavel 22' Royal Enfield Himalayan - Hoping to do some adventure riding. ________________________________ From: Vicki Smith <veloce916@gmail.com> on behalf of Vicki Smith <Vicki@Ducati.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 12:35 AM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Argentina MotoGP What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea? Vicki > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! > > Pags > >> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>  >> Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race? >> My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to talk about... >> >> Fred H. >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb40710934d443623a5708db34c61d1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638161797713995911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Y%2BS3N5zxLNq89OmCgke%2Bw58Nl9hmy5R7hv3imZ%2FE4S4%3D&reserved=0 >> and >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb40710934d443623a5708db34c61d1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638161797713995911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TXk6CpK13RlhfhIkkhuXAQe0AFYeD6pA6dnwTTUDaPw%3D&reserved=0 >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb40710934d443623a5708db34c61d1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638161797713995911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Y%2BS3N5zxLNq89OmCgke%2Bw58Nl9hmy5R7hv3imZ%2FE4S4%3D&reserved=0 > and > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb40710934d443623a5708db34c61d1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638161797713995911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TXk6CpK13RlhfhIkkhuXAQe0AFYeD6pA6dnwTTUDaPw%3D&reserved=0 > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb40710934d443623a5708db34c61d1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638161797713995911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Y%2BS3N5zxLNq89OmCgke%2Bw58Nl9hmy5R7hv3imZ%2FE4S4%3D&reserved=0 and https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb40710934d443623a5708db34c61d1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638161797713995911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TXk6CpK13RlhfhIkkhuXAQe0AFYeD6pA6dnwTTUDaPw%3D&reserved=0 _____________________ Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Lan Max
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 11:49 AM

I believe 3 riders were on the podium.

Apparently, we can’t talk about the race in detail due to some people are
unable to watch the race a few days later. So, we have to hush hush for
them.

Sheeesh!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 22:04 F.C. Hecker fheckerduc@gmail.com wrote:

Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race?
My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint
race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to
talk about...

Fred H.

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I believe 3 riders were on the podium. Apparently, we can’t talk about the race in detail due to some people are unable to watch the race a few days later. So, we have to hush hush for them. Sheeesh! On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 22:04 F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: > Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race? > My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint > race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to > talk about... > > Fred H. > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Mario Baroz
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 1:45 PM

I was adamantly against the idea when I first heard about it.  After the first race, since it was so exciting, I thought this might be a good thing.  The second sprint race was just as exciting.  But then as I thought about it more and read some of the more experienced moto-journalists' takes on it,  as exciting as they may be, I don't think these are a good idea going forward.  There are going to be more incidents, more injuries, more stress on the teams and riders, and I don't think any of those things are good for the series.  Losing that extra day of practice and replacing it with a stressful, high pressure race is a radical change.  Then when you factor in how long the season has become, I think it's all just too much.  So now I'm adamantly against it again.

Did anyone else notice the blatant, IMO, bias and favoritism shown to Quatararo by the announcers?  And camera crew for that matter.  Nakagami barely touched Q and they acted like he totally barged into him.  Somone else made a hard pass earlier in the race and they were saying "well, he left a hole and XXXX had to take it....that's just hard racing...."  But then Nakagami does a much less hard pass on Q and suddenly it's "Q's whole race has been ruined by Nakagamis unforgivable sin..."  What a load of garbage.  Then there was constant whining and empathy for Q and making excuses for him.  They gave him so much camera time while Zarco was blazing through the field.  Well, I thought it was out of hand.

Bezzechi is amazing, he will be hard man to contend with the rest of the year.  He has his confidence up and is on a great bike.  Alex Marquez is going to be up there as well. I don't know why people forget he is a two-time World Champion.  Well, because of his older brother but still....

Anyway, I'm not putting it past Marc doing his double lap penalty and still winning COTA.

Also, my mini-bike creation made it into the Handbuilt Show!  It's gonna be a busy weekend!

Mario

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Subject: [Ducati] Re: Argentina MotoGP

What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea?
Vicki

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

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I was adamantly against the idea when I first heard about it. After the first race, since it was so exciting, I thought this might be a good thing. The second sprint race was just as exciting. But then as I thought about it more and read some of the more experienced moto-journalists' takes on it, as exciting as they may be, I don't think these are a good idea going forward. There are going to be more incidents, more injuries, more stress on the teams and riders, and I don't think any of those things are good for the series. Losing that extra day of practice and replacing it with a stressful, high pressure race is a radical change. Then when you factor in how long the season has become, I think it's all just too much. So now I'm adamantly against it again. Did anyone else notice the blatant, IMO, bias and favoritism shown to Quatararo by the announcers? And camera crew for that matter. Nakagami barely touched Q and they acted like he totally barged into him. Somone else made a hard pass earlier in the race and they were saying "well, he left a hole and XXXX had to take it....that's just hard racing...." But then Nakagami does a much less hard pass on Q and suddenly it's "Q's whole race has been ruined by Nakagamis unforgivable sin..." What a load of garbage. Then there was constant whining and empathy for Q and making excuses for him. They gave him so much camera time while Zarco was blazing through the field. Well, I thought it was out of hand. Bezzechi is amazing, he will be hard man to contend with the rest of the year. He has his confidence up and is on a great bike. Alex Marquez is going to be up there as well. I don't know why people forget he is a two-time World Champion. Well, because of his older brother but still.... Anyway, I'm not putting it past Marc doing his double lap penalty and still winning COTA. Also, my mini-bike creation made it into the Handbuilt Show! It's gonna be a busy weekend! Mario 2023 Honda CRF250F 2018 Yamaha TTR=230 2017 Ducati Desert Sled 2006 Honda CBR600F4i 1998 AM 140 "Montague Loop Special" 1996 Ducati 900SS/CR 1977 BMW R100 1969 Hodaka Ace 100 1966 Hodaka Ace 90 ________________________________ From: Vicki Smith <veloce916@gmail.com> on behalf of Vicki Smith <Vicki@Ducati.net> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 11:35 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Argentina MotoGP What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea? Vicki > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! > > Pags > >> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>  >> Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race? >> My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. 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Tue, Apr 4, 2023 2:18 PM

Mario,
Nice post, thanks. I agree about the risks and pressure. The other thing is (imho) the Sat race is so much better than Sunday now. And finally, as a person who made a living as a racer for close to two decades, the situation with rider contracts and just springing the sprint format on a series full of under contract riders with no plan for extra pay is kind of wtf. Hopefully they have worked that out by now. The new  format does make Motogoat fantasy league more fun though.
Finally, at some point Mario I would love to see your Handbuilt entry. I am Grand Marshall at a conflicting event that weekend so I am passing on COTA. But my passion for minibikes remains stronger than ever so good luck and please share when you are ready.

On Apr 4, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Mario Baroz mariobaroz@hotmail.com wrote:


I was adamantly against the idea when I first heard about it.  After the first race, since it was so exciting, I thought this might be a good thing.  The second sprint race was just as exciting.  But then as I thought about it more and read some of the more experienced moto-journalists' takes on it,  as exciting as they may be, I don't think these are a good idea going forward.  There are going to be more incidents, more injuries, more stress on the teams and riders, and I don't think any of those things are good for the series.  Losing that extra day of practice and replacing it with a stressful, high pressure race is a radical change.  Then when you factor in how long the season has become, I think it's all just too much.  So now I'm adamantly against it again.

Did anyone else notice the blatant, IMO, bias and favoritism shown to Quatararo by the announcers?  And camera crew for that matter.  Nakagami barely touched Q and they acted like he totally barged into him.  Somone else made a hard pass earlier in the race and they were saying "well, he left a hole and XXXX had to take it....that's just hard racing...."  But then Nakagami does a much less hard pass on Q and suddenly it's "Q's whole race has been ruined by Nakagamis unforgivable sin..."  What a load of garbage.  Then there was constant whining and empathy for Q and making excuses for him.  They gave him so much camera time while Zarco was blazing through the field.  Well, I thought it was out of hand.

Bezzechi is amazing, he will be hard man to contend with the rest of the year.  He has his confidence up and is on a great bike.  Alex Marquez is going to be up there as well. I don't know why people forget he is a two-time World Champion.  Well, because of his older brother but still....

Anyway, I'm not putting it past Marc doing his double lap penalty and still winning COTA.

Also, my mini-bike creation made it into the Handbuilt Show!  It's gonna be a busy weekend!

Mario

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1998 AM 140 "Montague Loop Special"
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1977 BMW R100
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What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea?
Vicki

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

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Mario, Nice post, thanks. I agree about the risks and pressure. The other thing is (imho) the Sat race is so much better than Sunday now. And finally, as a person who made a living as a racer for close to two decades, the situation with rider contracts and just springing the sprint format on a series full of under contract riders with no plan for extra pay is kind of wtf. Hopefully they have worked that out by now. The new format does make Motogoat fantasy league more fun though. Finally, at some point Mario I would love to see your Handbuilt entry. I am Grand Marshall at a conflicting event that weekend so I am passing on COTA. But my passion for minibikes remains stronger than ever so good luck and please share when you are ready. > On Apr 4, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > >  > I was adamantly against the idea when I first heard about it. After the first race, since it was so exciting, I thought this might be a good thing. The second sprint race was just as exciting. But then as I thought about it more and read some of the more experienced moto-journalists' takes on it, as exciting as they may be, I don't think these are a good idea going forward. There are going to be more incidents, more injuries, more stress on the teams and riders, and I don't think any of those things are good for the series. Losing that extra day of practice and replacing it with a stressful, high pressure race is a radical change. Then when you factor in how long the season has become, I think it's all just too much. So now I'm adamantly against it again. > > Did anyone else notice the blatant, IMO, bias and favoritism shown to Quatararo by the announcers? And camera crew for that matter. Nakagami barely touched Q and they acted like he totally barged into him. Somone else made a hard pass earlier in the race and they were saying "well, he left a hole and XXXX had to take it....that's just hard racing...." But then Nakagami does a much less hard pass on Q and suddenly it's "Q's whole race has been ruined by Nakagamis unforgivable sin..." What a load of garbage. Then there was constant whining and empathy for Q and making excuses for him. They gave him so much camera time while Zarco was blazing through the field. Well, I thought it was out of hand. > > Bezzechi is amazing, he will be hard man to contend with the rest of the year. He has his confidence up and is on a great bike. Alex Marquez is going to be up there as well. I don't know why people forget he is a two-time World Champion. Well, because of his older brother but still.... > > Anyway, I'm not putting it past Marc doing his double lap penalty and still winning COTA. > > Also, my mini-bike creation made it into the Handbuilt Show! It's gonna be a busy weekend! > > Mario > > 2023 Honda CRF250F > 2018 Yamaha TTR=230 > 2017 Ducati Desert Sled > 2006 Honda CBR600F4i > 1998 AM 140 "Montague Loop Special" > 1996 Ducati 900SS/CR > 1977 BMW R100 > 1969 Hodaka Ace 100 > 1966 Hodaka Ace 90 > > From: Vicki Smith <veloce916@gmail.com> on behalf of Vicki Smith <Vicki@Ducati.net> > Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 11:35 PM > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: [Ducati] Re: Argentina MotoGP > > What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea? > Vicki > > > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! > > > > Pags > > > >> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>  > >> Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the race? > >> My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. 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Lan Max
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 3:03 PM

You feel stressed and pressured from your couch watching a MotoGp race,
than excited?

2 MotoGp races in a weekend!
Who cares if the teams, riders and machines get stressed. I see it as
pushing to the next level to get better. Push their riding limits,
endurance, engineering, etc. it’s the way to excel. Humans adapt and get
better in these areas.

I’d rather watch racing (sprint race) than practice.

These riders are pros. It’s all they know, it’s their lives and it’s their
choice.  They breathe racing.
Oh, and the nice millions of euros salary, bonuses, sponsors, and babes
they can obtain. I’m sure they love that too.

It is great for me As a spectator who enjoys riding motorbikes and watching
the best riders in the world go at it.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 09:46 Mario Baroz mariobaroz@hotmail.com wrote:

I was adamantly against the idea when I first heard about it.  After the
first race, since it was so exciting, I thought this might be a good
thing.  The second sprint race was just as exciting.  But then as I thought
about it more and read some of the more experienced moto-journalists' takes
on it,  as exciting as they may be, I don't think these are a good idea
going forward.  There are going to be more incidents, more injuries, more
stress on the teams and riders, and I don't think any of those things are
good for the series.  Losing that extra day of practice and replacing it
with a stressful, high pressure race is a radical change.  Then when you
factor in how long the season has become, I think it's all just too much.
So now I'm adamantly against it again.

Did anyone else notice the blatant, IMO, bias and favoritism shown to
Quatararo by the announcers?  And camera crew for that matter.  Nakagami
barely touched Q and they acted like he totally barged into him.  Somone
else made a hard pass earlier in the race and they were saying "well, he
left a hole and XXXX had to take it....that's just hard racing...."  But
then Nakagami does a much less hard pass on Q and suddenly it's "Q's whole
race has been ruined by Nakagamis unforgivable sin..."  What a load of
garbage.  Then there was constant whining and empathy for Q and making
excuses for him.  They gave him so much camera time while Zarco was blazing
through the field.  Well, I thought it was out of hand.

Bezzechi is amazing, he will be hard man to contend with the rest of the
year.  He has his confidence up and is on a great bike.  Alex Marquez is
going to be up there as well. I don't know why people forget he is a
two-time World Champion.  Well, because of his older brother but still....

Anyway, I'm not putting it past Marc doing his double lap penalty and
still winning COTA.

Also, my mini-bike creation made it into the Handbuilt Show!  It's gonna
be a busy weekend!

Mario

2023 Honda CRF250F
2018 Yamaha TTR=230
2017 Ducati Desert Sled
2006 Honda CBR600F4i
1998 AM 140 "Montague Loop Special"
1996 Ducati 900SS/CR
1977 BMW R100
1969 Hodaka Ace 100
1966 Hodaka Ace 90


From: Vicki Smith veloce916@gmail.com on behalf of Vicki Smith
Vicki@Ducati.net
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 11:35 PM
To: Ducati Owners Group ducati@list.ducati.net
Subject: [Ducati] Re: Argentina MotoGP

What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea?
Vicki

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Nah….nothing to talk about.  Sheesh!

Pags

On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker fheckerduc@gmail.com wrote:


Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the

race?

My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint

race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to
talk about...

Fred H.

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You feel stressed and pressured from your couch watching a MotoGp race, than excited? 2 MotoGp races in a weekend! Who cares if the teams, riders and machines get stressed. I see it as pushing to the next level to get better. Push their riding limits, endurance, engineering, etc. it’s the way to excel. Humans adapt and get better in these areas. I’d rather watch racing (sprint race) than practice. These riders are pros. It’s all they know, it’s their lives and it’s their choice. They breathe racing. Oh, and the nice millions of euros salary, bonuses, sponsors, and babes they can obtain. I’m sure they love that too. It is great for me As a spectator who enjoys riding motorbikes and watching the best riders in the world go at it. On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 09:46 Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > I was adamantly against the idea when I first heard about it. After the > first race, since it was so exciting, I thought this might be a good > thing. The second sprint race was just as exciting. But then as I thought > about it more and read some of the more experienced moto-journalists' takes > on it, as exciting as they may be, I don't think these are a good idea > going forward. There are going to be more incidents, more injuries, more > stress on the teams and riders, and I don't think any of those things are > good for the series. Losing that extra day of practice and replacing it > with a stressful, high pressure race is a radical change. Then when you > factor in how long the season has become, I think it's all just too much. > So now I'm adamantly against it again. > > Did anyone else notice the blatant, IMO, bias and favoritism shown to > Quatararo by the announcers? And camera crew for that matter. Nakagami > barely touched Q and they acted like he totally barged into him. Somone > else made a hard pass earlier in the race and they were saying "well, he > left a hole and XXXX had to take it....that's just hard racing...." But > then Nakagami does a much less hard pass on Q and suddenly it's "Q's whole > race has been ruined by Nakagamis unforgivable sin..." What a load of > garbage. Then there was constant whining and empathy for Q and making > excuses for him. They gave him so much camera time while Zarco was blazing > through the field. Well, I thought it was out of hand. > > Bezzechi is amazing, he will be hard man to contend with the rest of the > year. He has his confidence up and is on a great bike. Alex Marquez is > going to be up there as well. I don't know why people forget he is a > two-time World Champion. Well, because of his older brother but still.... > > Anyway, I'm not putting it past Marc doing his double lap penalty and > still winning COTA. > > Also, my mini-bike creation made it into the Handbuilt Show! It's gonna > be a busy weekend! > > Mario > > 2023 Honda CRF250F > 2018 Yamaha TTR=230 > 2017 Ducati Desert Sled > 2006 Honda CBR600F4i > 1998 AM 140 "Montague Loop Special" > 1996 Ducati 900SS/CR > 1977 BMW R100 > 1969 Hodaka Ace 100 > 1966 Hodaka Ace 90 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vicki Smith <veloce916@gmail.com> on behalf of Vicki Smith > <Vicki@Ducati.net> > *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 11:35 PM > *To:* Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Argentina MotoGP > > What does everyone think about the new format? Sprint race, yes or nea? > Vicki > > > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Nah….nothing to talk about. Sheesh! > > > > Pags > > > >> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:04 PM, F.C. Hecker <fheckerduc@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>  > >> Not any talk of the race this past weekend? Did anyone else watch the > race? > >> My results in MotoGOAT were completely lucky guesses. One in the sprint > race, and six finished of the ten I picked in the big race. Not much to > talk about... > >> > >> Fred H. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #