[Ducati] 2 threads in one (touring and bump starting)

[JAMES HUSTON]

Lots of commercial riders couriers in the UK with VFR
with 2,3,and 4 hundred thousand miles on their
VFRs.The reason they ride Hondas is clear. I have
owened both makes ST3 nabd VFR 750. If comfort and
unsurpassed durability is your cup of tea its is VFR a
 raw more sport than sport touring type of ride with
more maintaince Ducati ST is the choice. 
--- Rich Roberts <bigredxrunner at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The real distinction here and the point that is
> missing, granted the Duc is more visceral, more
> open, a little more raw. the Honda a bit more muted,
> even refined from an engineering standpoint. My
> point is this, though some would ride the 900ss or
> any other Duc across the country  and I would give
> them  the thumbs up the whole way, a far more
> realistic choice I think would be the VFR. I am
> sorry, A Duc would not be my IronButt choice though
> I know Egan does it. With what amount of prep and
> support I am not sure. But the Honda will typically
> take alot more abuse before it leaves you pushing it
> up the street and for the most part will almost
> always start and get you home. Not absolutely as I
> have had at least two Honda V motored bikes give it
> up over of all things regulator rectifier problems.
> Sounds familiar huh? But I have also logged 10-20
> times more miles on a Honda than any Duc without any
> issues that I did not create myself. 
>   the VFR is a very balanced mix of all things good
> about Honda and V motors in general. A bit more
> compact and likely more complicated than the simpler
> 900SS. Personally I like gear driven over head cams.
> I liked some of the earlier models before they did
> the sidemounted rads and were a bit lighter. I still
> think my all time favorite was that 86 tarriff
> beating one in pearl white with gold accents or the
> one year earlier 750 in RWB. Both of which I think
> would pretty handily spank any 900SS. Does that mean
> I like the 900SS any less, hardly.  For sheer fun
> the 900SS has it hands down. By the way my wifes
> since sold VFR has graced the cover of the
> Whitehorse press in the past.
> 
> Bob Marren <bmarren at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>   A friend of mine has a VFR and is fond of saying
> that its almost a 
> Ducati. I ask him if thats like being almost
> pregnant. Its over his head 
> and so would a Ducati be.
> 
> Kevin Kachadourian wrote:
> 
> >Maybe the distinction should be between touring and
> long-distance riding
> >(and maybe "adventure" riding).
> >
> >Or, maybe it's like Starbucks vs Mama Cinnelli's
> cafe.
> >
> >I've owned 2 Hondas, a CB350 k3 and a VF750. They
> started every time, and
> >ran like dreams (with the VF, I had to get used to
> the clatter of the cam
> >chain). I would never go back to either of these
> bikes, if it meant giving
> >up either the Aly or the SP.
> >A friend, who owned a VFR, said it best after
> riding the SP: "the VFR is a
> >great bike, and everything is there; but with the
> SP, you know you're riding
> >a motorcycle."
> >
> >I sometimes wonder if I should go back to the early
> kick-start 900SS.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >
> >On 1/16/08, Tony Pagliaroli wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>On Jan 16, 2008 5:11 PM, Kevin Kachadourian 
> >>wrote:
> >> 
> >>
> >>>Whether you call it a sport-tourer, a touring
> sport bike, or a bloody
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>beast,
> >> 
> >>
> >>>it's always good to tour on a bike that you can
> bump start.
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>C'mon Kevin - I could make the exact opposite
> argument for only
> >>touring on a Honda. If it never fails to start,
> that need is
> >>eliminated.
> >>
> >>Pags
> >>
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