[Ducati] NDC Anti harley shirts

[John Whiting]

Well, my small sport bike riding group has strict rules that do not
allow for disrespect of the harley riders.  To my knowledge, we have had
two incidents of negative comments and later the respective same days,
both riders were involved in incidents.  The 2nd one was me, last
november, after making the comment as 2 Harleys passed us while we were
taking a break on the side of the road: "how can something with that
little power make that much noise?".  Staton immediately introduced the
Kharma card:  "I can't believe you said that, Whiting, you KNOW we don't
diss cruisers on rides....remember what happened LAST time?".

Bam, 2 hours later, I'm out cold in the middle of FM 16 south of
Kerrville, counting dirt bikes jumping over fences like a dream from the
great escape.

Consider yourselves warned.  

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Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:11 AM
To: Ducati Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Ducati] NDC Anti harley shirts

It's a neat shirt but don't know if it is anti-harley. There are lots of
cruisers with loud pipes, with two Victory's in the stable I'm probably
guilty of the pipe part although my Bassani 2-1 on the Kingpin has a
nice tone to it and is not that loud. Let's see The Monster 900 and ST3
both have termi's so they probably offend some. The S2R1000 has an open,
reverse cone, SS system from ARC, which I'm sure some would consider
offensive. As to the 2nd part, which is what I think the point of the
shirt is, sadly I think the message hits home with too many cruiser
riders, too many of them buy them thinking they can just run up and down
the Blvd - how hard can that be - and discover they still need to be
able to stop, turn etc... I know some folks like that, cannot not pull a
u-turn on a two lane road on their best day, and paddle their way
through parking lots. I've also noticed as of late they are the same
ones who subscribe to the 10 under rule, if its posted 55 MPH speed
limit they t
hink 45 MPH is safer for some reason. I understand why they think that,
with no helmet, jeans, and a T-shirt as their riding ensemble they
probably cannot stand to go the speed limit. But you know I've also seen
some sport bike riders, riding around Daytona and Myrtle beach wearing a
color matched leather jacket, open and unzipped of course, with the
~$500 helmet attched to the helmet lock, shorts, and tennis shoes. I
think the only thing missing from the shirt is another message on the
front that Says "Imagine what wearing Safety Gear would do". Hmm, think
I will have some made up - in Ducati Red of course. At the end of the
day, the general public and the politicians put us all in the same
category, motorcyclist, and in my view we need to police ourselves
before they shut us down - which means we've got to get along, get to
know one another, and then just maybe we can influence a few of our
fellow riders to take some riding classes, put some gear on, and tone
down the exhaust jus
t a little. - Gene

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Brez998" <Brez998 at comcast.net> 

> Not to offend anyone on the list that may own a harley but I saw a
anti-harley 
> shirt that I got to own. Would anyone know where to get one? A guy at
deals 
> gap was wearing one that read something to the effect of 
> "If loud pipes save lives, imagine what learning to ride that thing
would 
> do", 
> 
> Brez