[Ducati] Re: Ducati748r ecu
Brad Giddy
bradly at internode.on.net
Thu Sep 27 04:42:23 EDT 2007
Hi guys, has anyone in the collective wisdom had dramas with 2002 748r ecu ?
(or similar) .I am currently awaiting a report for purchasing the bike
and this issue came up. dealer installed new ecu AUD $2400
apparently..Thought these things were bulletproof ecu wise..... any
comments? regards brad
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> 1. RE: 2008 848 (Mike Suranyi)
> 2. Bridgestone Tires (Mark Hatten)
> 3. RE: 2008 848 (Alexander M Ortner)
> 4. Re: 2008 848 (Tony Pagliaroli)
> 5. Interview with Giuseppe Bocchi, Italian mechanical engineer
> (Veloce916 at aol.com)
> 6. RE: Well ranters, here's my rant! (George Anderson)
> 7. 2008 848 (Barry)
> 8. RE: 2008 848 (Alexander M Ortner)
> 9. my new present (Stephen Abramson)
> 10. RE: my new present (Ronald Betts)
> 11. Re: my new present (Alec Moss)
> 12. Ducati's move to Bridgestone (Steve McCollom)
> 13. Stock 996 chip in san Francisco? (andy)
> 14. Re: Ducati's move to Bridgestone (Ducati Superbikes)
> 15. RE: Ducati's move to Bridgestone (Mike Suranyi)
> 16. championship shirt (Veloce916 at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:51:23 -0700
> From: "Mike Suranyi" <msuranyi at niello.com>
> Subject: RE: [Ducati] 2008 848
> To: "'Ducati Owners Group'" <ducati at ducati.net>
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> I hate to, but I have to agree with you. Here I was, all excited &
waiting
> with baited wallet for the announcement of a baby 1098 w/o the insurance
> hit, and what do I end up hearing about; a watered-down bike that lacks
> everything that a "superbike" should have. Glad I didn't throw a deposit
> down on it.
>
> That is all...
>
> DucMike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net] On
Behalf
> Of PJDemoga at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:28 AM
> To: ducati at ducati.net
> Subject: [Ducati] 2008 848
>
> My dealer called me today to say that my 848 will likely be here in
> December.
> It comes in two colors, red or white, wet clutch! , 5.5 " rear wheel and
no
>
> steering damper.
> There is no s version available.
> I hope that wheels, suspension and brakes are the same quality as the
1098,
>
> but I did not ask.
> Price is 13k.
> Anyone heard anything else?
> This sounds like a 749 Dark deal which has way less appeal to me than I
> expected.
>
> Paul D
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:06:59 -0400
> From: "Mark Hatten" <hatman at columbus.rr.com>
> Subject: [Ducati] Bridgestone Tires
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> Following up on the recent Bridgestone tire thread, I have some
contingency
> certificates I need to use before they expire and can make a couple of
> poeple a smokin' deal on Bridgestone tires. Give me a shout off-line at
> info at woundedduc.net
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>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:02:21 -0400
> From: "Alexander M Ortner" <aortner264789mi at comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [Ducati] 2008 848
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> Funny that anyone is disappointed. I don't think they should make one at
> all. If you can't handle the power of 1098 you're fooling yourself if you
> think the 848 is somehow safer, as is the insurance industry. And that you
> think you should get exactly the same bike as a 1098 except with less
> displacement for less money tells me you don't have clue. If it cost the
> same to make they should charge the same so you want a 848 for $15000 then
> yea they should make one you don't want to pay the same as a 1098 then
they
> should remove as much as possible to get the price down. What they
shouldn't
> do is force 1098 buyers to subsidize the 848 which what they did with the
> 748 and 996 that wasn't fair. I doubt they will make that mistake again.
>
>
> Alex Ortner
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> www.alexortner.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:14:16 -0400
> From: "Tony Pagliaroli" <ajpags at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ducati] 2008 848
> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
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> On 9/26/07, Alexander M Ortner <aortner264789mi at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Funny that anyone is disappointed. I don't think they should make one at
>
> A quick and relevant history lesson here - in 1990, the Yamaha FZR400
> was $100 MORE expensive than the FZR600. Why? Because displacement
> alone has next to nothing to do with the cost of a motorcycle. The
> 400 had an aluminum frame and swingarm that the 600 didn't have, and
> as such, was a better handling and more desirable bike all around.
> The reason they dropped it from the US market was simply because the
> US didn't appreciate the nuances of smaller displacement, and making
> the exact same 600 with a 400 motor cost them exactly the same, so
> they opted not to do it.
>
> I'd expect the 848 to be a lesser bike all around, especially so as
> not to cannibalize sales of the 1098. What I really wonder is how
> many local racing organizations will change rules to make these bikes
> fit where they're competitive/dominant.
>
> Pags
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:33:16 EDT
> From: Veloce916 at aol.com
> Subject: [Ducati] Interview with Giuseppe Bocchi, Italian mechanical
> engineer
> To: ducati at ducati.net
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> Marginal Ducati content but interesting I thought.
>
> _http://blog.novedge.com/2007/09/an-interview--2.html_
> (http://blog.novedge.com/2007/09/an-interview--2.html)
>
> Vicki
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:43:39 -0600
> From: George Anderson <george_anderson at shaw.ca>
> Subject: RE: [Ducati] Well ranters, here's my rant!
> To: 'Ducati Owners Group' <ducati at ducati.net>
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> I agree then why not eliminate the spoiler in the text and have everyone
use
> their own judgment as to when they want to check their e-mail. There
would
> be no moaning when someone accidentally slips up and spoils an aspect of a
> race. If you can spend time reading your e-mail then I would think you
> could find the time to watch the race. Once again, stuck at work then get
a
> Slingbox and watch the race on your computer.
>
> G.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net] On
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> Of Ducman
> Sent: September 26, 2007 8:36 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Ducati] Well ranters, here's my rant!
>
> This gets re-hashed at least once a year..sometimes twice :)
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:09:54 -0600
> From: Barry <musical at interbaun.com>
> Subject: [Ducati] 2008 848
> To: ducati at ducati.net
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> I am also disappointed, but not in the fact the 848 has no steering
> damper or that it simulates a 749 dark. I am disappointed that there
> is no S or R model. For those of us who are racers and want to be
> competitive with Ducati in Supersport there seems to be no concern
> for this class. I know supersport rules will have to under go changes
> very much like the WSBK Superbike did to allow the 1098, maybe they
> will pursue this next year. But I would like to see Ducati do better
> in this class. Oh well will see what the 748 can do this year again.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:32:26 -0400
> From: "Alexander M Ortner" <aortner264789mi at comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [Ducati] 2008 848
> To: "'Ducati Owners Group'" <ducati at ducati.net>
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> >I am disappointed that there
> >is no S or R model.
>
> Hi Barry
> I actually agree with you as a matter of fact it has long been my
contention
> that the only 848 Ducati should build at all is an R model for $30k like
> they did with the 749R. The 749R was one of the best bikes Ducati ever
built
> and they might not have made much money on it but it was a terrific bike.
> The rules were not fair for it to be competitive but the same thinking
done
> to the 848 might be.
>
>
> Alex Ortner
> aortner at comcast.net
> www.alexortner.com
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:40:31 -0500
> From: Stephen Abramson <desmo900 at optonline.net>
> Subject: [Ducati] my new present
> To: 'Ducati Owners Group' <ducati at ducati.net>
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> Check out the pic at Registro.com for my new wall art-a gift from my
> thoughtful sister. The image is 6 separate ceramic tiles painted to match
> the picture on the wall below, which was pilfered without my knowledge
while
> the work was being done. Matting and framing by me. This image doesn't
> really show it, but the detail of work is quite excellent.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.registroducati.com/details.php?image_id=98&sessionid=86c2d881c769
> edebac0e7e6b6c8ff14d
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:04:10 -0700
> From: Ronald Betts <ronaldebettsasalc0015 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Ducati] my new present
> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati at ducati.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY133-W39855B4D69DFEA42DE6603BCB00 at phx.gbl>
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>
> That's awsome Dude. Is it painted? Who does it?
>
>
>
> Peace...Ron"Desmohead"Betts 95 900 SPI've learned that I don't suffer from
insanity, I enjoy it!> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:40:31 -0500> From:
desmo900 at optonline.net> To: ducati at ducati.net> Subject: [Ducati] my new
present> > Check out the pic at Registro.com for my new wall art-a gift from
my> thoughtful sister. The image is 6 separate ceramic tiles painted to
match> the picture on the wall below, which was pilfered without my
knowledge while> the work was being done. Matting and framing by me. This
image doesn't> really show it, but the detail of work is quite excellent.> >
> > > > Steve> > > > > >
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> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:29:59 -0700
> From: Alec Moss <amoss at coastside.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ducati] my new present
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> Very nice. Who did the artwork?
>
>
> Alec
>
>
> On 9/26/07 2:40 PM, "Stephen Abramson" <desmo900 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > Check out the pic at Registro.com for my new wall art-a gift from my
> > thoughtful sister. The image is 6 separate ceramic tiles painted to
match
> > the picture on the wall below, which was pilfered without my knowledge
while
> > the work was being done. Matting and framing by me. This image doesn't
> > really show it, but the detail of work is quite excellent.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:06:15 -0400
> From: "Steve McCollom" <steven.mccollom at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Ducati] Ducati's move to Bridgestone
> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
> Message-ID: <002b01c80089$75464c40$0301a8c0 at Kitchen>
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> I love it when a plan comes together...
>
> http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62714
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:34:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: andy <andy at andyman.org>
> Subject: [Ducati] Stock 996 chip in san Francisco?
> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati at ducati.net>
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> Hey anyone got a Stock 996 chip in San Francisco? I'm trying to run the
> VDSTS diagnostic on my bike but it won't work with aftermarket chips. I
> just need to borrow it for 10 minutes. I don't have my original one
> anymore. I'll either pay you something for your time or we can run the
> test on your bike too. ping me off list if you can help me out.
>
> andy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:43:32 -0400
> From: "Ducati Superbikes" <ducatis at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ducati] Ducati's move to Bridgestone
> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
> Message-ID: <00a801c80097$0c7b5490$6401a8c0 at POPSTOSHIBA>
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>
> So what's the real "behind the scenes" story??? Why wouldn't Rossi ride
for
> Ducati (other than the tobacco tale)???
>
> Tye
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve McCollom" <steven.mccollom at verizon.net>
> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:06 PM
> Subject: [Ducati] Ducati's move to Bridgestone
>
>
> >I love it when a plan comes together...
> >
> > http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62714
> >
> > *****
> >
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:22:13 -0700
> From: "Mike Suranyi" <msuranyi at niello.com>
> Subject: RE: [Ducati] Ducati's move to Bridgestone
> To: "'Ducati Owners Group'" <ducati at ducati.net>
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> The last thing I heard had to do with his wanting to keep "his" team with
> him & the fact that Ducati has its own people. Not sure how much is truth
&
> how much is excuses.
>
> That is all...
>
> DucMike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net] On
Behalf
> Of Ducati Superbikes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:44 PM
> To: Ducati Owners Group
> Subject: Re: [Ducati] Ducati's move to Bridgestone
>
> So what's the real "behind the scenes" story??? Why wouldn't Rossi ride
for
> Ducati (other than the tobacco tale)???
>
> Tye
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve McCollom" <steven.mccollom at verizon.net>
> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:06 PM
> Subject: [Ducati] Ducati's move to Bridgestone
>
>
> >I love it when a plan comes together...
> >
> > http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62714
> >
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:07:28 EDT
> From: Veloce916 at aol.com
> Subject: [Ducati] championship shirt
> To: ducati at ducati.net
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> FYI -
>
> I got a bulletin from Ducati today that mentions the championship shirt
> which somebody here was asking about (perfect for torturing other make
riding
> friends and family) :-)
>
> The shirt if you order it from Italy is pretty pricey with the euro and
> shipping but it will be available from US dealers in a week or so.
>
> The shirt is down at the lower side of this link:
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