[Ducati] Re: Spam: Ducati Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1

Thu Nov 1 14:03:04 EDT 2007


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> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:01:29 EDT
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>I remember their were talks about the next generation of superbikes before the 1098 came out that Ducati would always be a V-twin company.  But maybe because of the high demand for the Desmocedici RR bike that maybe a V-4 would not be a bad idea.  Maybe making the 1200cc superbike with stock components (i.e. high end internals and materials)is still a expensive adventure to remain at the top of the game.  But a V-4 like the GP 800cc bike built with standard components (i.e. non highend materials and internals)may not be that expensive to produce and sale.  But with many Ducati owners having purchased the exclusive $80K MotoGP Desmocedici RR replica bike,  I do not see Ducati selling the SBK homolagation required number of bikes.  Producing them is one thing but selling them is a different story.  The 1098 sales were crazy and their was more demand than product.  Now you have the Superbike coming 1098R at $40K and people who really want it and have a 1098 already may have sit on their 1098 til they sale it or take a lost to get the 1098R model.  I have seen some tricolours up for sale already with the desire to acquire a 1098R or get on some dealers waiting list.  V-4 may be the direction to go.  Take advantage of the MotoGP technology.  There is only so much you can transfer to a V-twin from a V-4 machine.  To re cope all the experience and money from this adventure you may have to go to producing a V-4 or a line of V-4 bikes.  But it can not be the current MotoGP bike due to the FIM rules.  Maybe not a 800cc maybe a 600cc or 700cc.  Either way you look at it,  I am sure any bike Ducati produces is always more bike than the average Joe can handle.  We all dream to be able to ride like a Rossi, Stoner, Capirossi or a Bayliss.  I know I do.  Maybe I can groom my son to be the next MotoGP champion.  He is 6 now and I got 6 or 7 years to get him ready and off to Europe we go.


> Your assessment is right on Alex, Minoli said as much in a recent
> interview. Since Ducati had the 1200cc limit they'd wanted for the
> twins  they had no need to even consider the Desmo and the Sedici
> crowd/market was  considered also with no intention to produce
> anymore. I don't see them doing so  down the road either unless
> they radically downgrade parts quality to keep the  price
> reasonable.
>
> We already know there's a new monster coming out, I hope we see a
> new or special SS, I hear an F1 inspired machine is probable, and a
> 1098 based naked is past due. None of these would or should be in
> the $40k range though so that would have to be the S or R model
> 1098 but that's no surprise either.
>
> Six more days.
>
> W
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>
> In a message dated 10/31/2007 5:06:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> aortner264789mi at comcast.net writes:
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> Hi, No  they couldn't do that. That would make every Desmosedici
> buyer madder than  an a hatter. And they would have every right to
> be. Plus after the crying  to get 1200cc twins, I can't see it
> would be a public relations disaster in  my opinion. Now two years
> from now absolutely I would bet on it.
>
> Alex  Ortner
> I canâ€™t go back and fix my mistakes
>
>