[Ducati] CBS Coverage- Today's MotoGP Race - still a spoiler =)

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Tue Jul 17 13:54:33 EDT 2007 

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>From: DiCollins123 <dicollins123 at aol.com>
>Reply-To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati at ducati.net>
>To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
>Subject: Re: [Ducati] CBS Coverage- Today's MotoGP Race - still a spoiler 
>=)
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:31:00 -0400
>
>Good afternoon to all:
>
>I am continually amazed that purveyors of live action sports do not take 
>routinely advantage of the technology that's right under their noses...and 
>that's across the board, IMHO.
>
>In M/C racing, all those bikes are fitted with cameras front and back, but 
>you only rarely see the action from on board, and when you do, it's only 
>snippets of it... the notion that you never view the rider's perspective on 
>the race to turn one astounds me...in any event, I wish they would split 
>screen the telecasts, and give you different angles to choose from.
>
>I'd pay a lot for that if I could access it.
>
>In any event, no matter how droll the coverage was, it beat the daylights 
>out of watching NASCAR, didn't it?
>
>JRD Collins
>
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>
>
>
>In a message dated 07/16/07 12:03:18 Eastern Daylight Time, 
>amoss at coastside.net writes:
>I think it all starts with the lead in to the show.  There were no grid
>shots, no warm up lap, no discussion of the atmosphere, just a nice
>description of the track layout - and it was a good description - but
>nothing was done to set the scene or the mood.  Also, the commercial breaks
>seemed longer, maybe less frequent, I don't know, but longer.  And there
>were the constant reminders, before cutting back to the racing, that we 
>were
>- fanfare... WATCHING MOTOGP ON CBS!  That bit was more animated than the
>race call.
>
>
>Alec
>
>
>On 7/16/07 7:57 AM, "Mark Hatten" <hatman at columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > D'oh!  Sorry about that.  At least I didn't put it in the subject line . 
>. .
> > ;-)
> >
> > I thought they did a decent job of catching Nicky and Colin's charge up
> > through the pack.  There wasn't really much going on at the front, so 
>that
> > was really the best action on the track.
> >
> > Not sure why, but it seems like when the races are on CBS, the actual 
>feed
> > is less interesting.  Supposedly it's the same feed everyone gets, but 
>it
> > seems like there's a lack of on-bike camera shots, etc.  Maybe it's just 
>the
> > boring announcing dulling down the whole thing.  ;-)
> >
> > Anyone know who the announcers are for Fox's coverage of the USGP?
> >
> >
> > Mark Hatten
> > Wounded Duc -- Used Ducati Parts Online
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> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "fred lindstrom" <flindstrom at earthlink.net>
> > To: "'Ducati Owners Group'" <ducati at ducati.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:02 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Ducati] CBS Coverage- Today's MotoGP Race - still a 
>spoiler =)
> >
> >
> >> hey Mark.....
> >>
> >> this one's still a spoiler! =)
> >>
> >> that said....i agree that the network coverage has the 'potential' to
> >> reach
> >> new fans/viewers...and that's great. however, that's why it's such a 
>shame
> >> the coverage is so poor. with the ho-hum cliched announcing adding 
>nothing
> >> in terms of information/education and frankly taking away from the
> >> excitement of arguably one of the most exciting spectator sports....i
> >> wonder
> >> how many new fans actually come on board? these guys never focus on any 
>of
> >> the amazing charges through the field, they don't talk about fast laps 
>or
> >> a
> >> rider consistently setting fastest race lap....as Rossi did at Assen
> >> moving
> >> up from 11th. it's just, 'oh...Rossi just passed Barros'. zzzzzzzzzzzz! 
>=)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Mark Hatten
> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:40 AM
> >> To: Ducati Owners Group
> >> Subject: Re: [Ducati] CBS Coverage- Today's MotoGP Race
> >>
> >> My favorite was when Valentino Rossi crashed, with the camera cutting 
>to
> >> him
> >>
> >> trying to pick his bike up out of the gravel.  The implications were 
>huge:
> >> the sport's greatest rider's 2007 title hopes quite likely dashed; 
>Casey
> >> Stoner's title hopes getting a huge boost; and Dani Pedrosa suddenly 
>back
> >> in
> >>
> >> the hunt, you would have thought you were watching CBS golf coverage 
>and
> >> some no-name journeyman just hit it into the bunker.  "Ooooh, and
> >> Valentino
> >> Rossi just found the sand outside Turn Five," he whispered in hushed
> >> tones.
> >>
> >> I enjoy Schwantz's color commentary and the knowledge and experience he
> >> brings to the broadcast.  The problem is, Schwantz is a fairly low-key 
>guy
> >> (most world champs are not exactly very "excitable" by nature), and
> >> Medder's
> >>
> >> really does sound like he's announcing golf.  It's okay to have a 
>low-key
> >> play-by-play guy if the color guy is a "big" personality (think Pat
> >> Summerall and John Madden in football), but when both are flat and
> >> monotone,
> >>
> >> it really does suck the life out of the broadcast.  I can get a bit 
>weary
> >> of
> >>
> >> Harris' and the WSBK guy's incessant screaming (can *everyone* really 
>be a
> >> "demon on the brakes"?), but there's gotta be a happy medium.
> >>
> >> On the plus side, the CBS broadcast is reaching millions of US viewers 
>who
> >> would never watch MotoGP on Speed, or who do not get Speed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Hatten
> >> Wounded Duc -- Used Ducati Parts Online
> >> Home of the "Loud Clutches Save Lives" T-Shirts
> >> www.woundedduc.net
> >> (Note the URL change!)
> >> AMA Pro #352
> >> AHRMA #52 (#1 for 2007)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "fred lindstrom" <flindstrom at earthlink.net>
> >> To: "'Ducati Owners Group'" <ducati at ducati.net>
> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:49 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [Ducati] CBS Coverage- Today's MotoGP Race
> >>
> >>
> >>> Nope...it's the same feed that's broadcast on Speed. I don't know that
> >>> the
> >>> 'coverage' that's broadcast on Speed....has anything to do with Speed,
> >>> other
> >>> than their purchase of the package from Dorna. In F1, the Speed
> >>> announcers
> >>> are Varsha, Hobbs, Matchett and Windsor. When they get broadcast on
> >>> network
> >>> tv, Fox, they contract the same announcers. With MotoGp, Nick Harris 
>and
> >>> crew are part of the Dorna broadcast...and don't work for Speed. I
> >>> hesitate
> >>> to even comment on yesterday's coverage not really wanting to say
> >>> anything
> >>> negative....but again, I thought it was really poor. Schwantz is 
>clearly
> >>> knowledgable....and may even be more interesting and animated if he 
>had a
> >>> pro's lead to follow. That Medders guy clearly doesn't understand the
> >>> series
> >>> and has zero passion. He consistently states the painfully obvious,
> >>> 'there's
> >>> racer A following racer B', 'oh look, there's racer C'. it's a snore.
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Fred
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net] On
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of Garth Williams
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:32 AM
> >>> To: Ducati Owners Group
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ducati] CBS Coverage- Today's MotoGP Race
> >>>
> >>> Hmmm, I don't think CBS has any control over the feed- that's MotoGP.  
>My
> >>> comment wasn't that the coverage wasn't terrible, it was that it was 
>an
> >>> improvement from the last race they did.  It shows they at least have 
>the
> >>> capacity to improve.
> >>>
> >>> Is it Speed TV's coverage?  No.  And it's certainly not like anything
> >>> available in Europe.  But that wasn't my point.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Garth
> >>>
> >>> On 7/16/07, Bill Young <byoung93888 at msn.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> While I appreciate being able to see the race CBS' coverage is 
>terrible.
> >>>> If
> >>>> you don't want to watch Colin and Nickey for the whole race (even if
> >>>> they
> >>>> are tooling around in the back) don't watch CBS' coverage.
> >>>> Bill
> >>>>
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