[Ducati] Re: Ducati Digest, Vol 13, Issue 4
HOPPER ELDRIDGE
hoppereldridge at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jan 2 23:02:59 EST 2007
hey all...Happy New Year...as soon as I shake this blasted cold!
Need to do some brain pickin'....tell me a website that has a parts list/parts book/parts breakdown for the '96 900SS series of Ducs! Power Sports Pro? site had a good listing of the bikes but they quit carrying the Ducs and took the list off. Seems a lot of 2000 plus models are listed and the olde bevelheads too,but the older between years are lacking.
Any sources anybody? It's a whole lot easier to tell the parts man what you want to get a price on for a particular part number than to have him tell you what he thinks you're wanting to know and then order the wrong part...ugh!!! And the nearest dealer is on the yonder side of Houston to my humble abode.
'preciate any help! Hopper
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Today's Topics:
1. 748 Cam Lobe extraction (Kerry and Brad Black)
2. Re: getting more from a 996 (Kerry and Brad Black)
3. RE: New Years Ride! (Scott Cloninger)
4. Re: 748 Rockers (John Filak)
5. NDC Spam...just wondering -- Zook DRZ125L (richinelli at neo.rr.com)
6. Re: 748 Rockers (Rich Roberts)
7. Re: 1 year old 95 SS CR (rmichantz at uswest.net)
8. Re: 748 Rockers (John Filak)
9. Re: 1 year old 95 SS CR (Veloce916 at aol.com)
10. Re: NDC Spam...just wondering -- Zook DRZ125L (Ronald Betts)
11. Re: 1 year old 95 SS CR (Ronald Betts)
12. Re: 1 year old 95 SS CR (Antonio Nolasco)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:43:49 +1100
From: "Kerry and Brad Black"
Subject: [Ducati] 748 Cam Lobe extraction
To: "Ducati.Net"
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you can pull the opening rockers pins out far enough (10mm or so) to slide the rocker across and off the top of the shim and down out of the way to get the cams out, without pulling them all the way out. i don't remove the opening rockers because it's one of those little fiddly jobs that annoys me. once the RH opening rocker is out of the way the cam will come straight out. you need to turn it a little to let the closing lobes clear the opening rocker on the way out, but it's very easy.
we use a slidehammer to get the pins out.
brad
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:47:47 +1100
From: "Kerry and Brad Black"
Subject: Re: [Ducati] getting more from a 996
To: "Ducati.Net"
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power wise the desmoquattro are all valve restricted, and it costs so much to fix that it's a put off for most. plus it never increases the value of the bike except to very, very few. the light wheels will help more than many think with everything, but you're still 20hp short of you target with std heads and cams.
much better to sell.
brad
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:11:09 -0500
From: "Scott Cloninger"
Subject: RE: [Ducati] New Years Ride!
To: "Ducati Owners Group"
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Fellow Listers,
I hope everybody got out for at least a few miles yesterday!
It's a kind of tradition that I ride on New Years Day, regardless of the weather, as a matter of ceremony. It's kinda my way of welcoming in the New Year and setting the tone for the year to come. However, it's rare that I'm actually comfortable during my Jan. 1 jaunt! Weather in eastern Tennessee was in the lower 40s (Fahrenheit) with overcast skies, but no rain and very little chance of the wet stuff. I rode over the Suck (Suck Creek Mountain Road) and puttered around for a while, then headed to Taco Mac and hoisted a Woodpecker Amber to commemorate the day.
All in all, I'll consider the day a win....regardless of the fact that my team didn't make a bowl game. (It's hard to go to a bowl game with only two wins....basketball season, however, is another matter! GO HEELS!!!!!!)
Cheers, and Happy New Year to all,
Cloner
Chattanooga, TN
Happy Tarheel....in Tennessee
Peter Balfour said....
"Today I just experienced a first...taking the Ducati out for a ride on New Years day....in Ontario Canada!"
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 05:15:34 -0800 (PST)
From: John Filak
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 748 Rockers
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--- Rich Roberts wrote:
> If interested look on Arch's site to see a
> simple rocker shaft pulling tool ...
Can you point me to that 'site?
Thanks,
John Filak
Potterstown NJ USA
http://users.nac.net/filak
'00 BMW K1200RS "The Gates Of Delirium"
'96 Ducati 900SS/CR "El Gato"
'97 Ducati 916 Strada "El Fuego"
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:15:12 -0500
From: richinelli at neo.rr.com
Subject: [Ducati] NDC Spam...just wondering -- Zook DRZ125L
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Tom noted..
> Personally, I've always been the one who must be obeyed (and
controls the
finances).
Yeahhh..thats exactly what she wants you to think...bet she has her
own version of the story...
rich l
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:25:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Rich Roberts
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 748 Rockers
To: Ducati Owners Group
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http://www.archmoto.com/rich/pics.html......whew, looks like Arch is moving or redoing site so good thing I saved the old link. I have tons more stuff and this is kind of old news, I think Arch put this on his site 5 years ago or actually longer. Not much of what you are doing is new to many of us on this list. Might also want to look at what Chris Kelly is doing on his site with tutorials and the like. I do not do this for a living though I sometimes think I should....but there aint much money in it. As much as I know about Ducatis and working on them...I think I am likely a better bicycle mechanic...meaning you want a perfect rebuild I am your man, vinatge Paramounts and Raleighs being a current specialty. I have rebuilt way more bicycles than motorcycles though I think the mindset transfers over very well...one grain of sand or strand of hair can be felt in a bicycle wheel bearing or BB. Take that approach to all your mechanics and you will do well. Next to that pumping
systems and all sorts of controls are my real work having spent over 25 years working in the water/wastewater utility field, a major part of that Operations and Maintenance but also lots of years involved in managing projects whether small or large, currently 40Mil CIP. So I have several hats. But working on motorcycles and bicycles is something I have done for a solid 30 years. Most of that on my own....meaning I have not had the luxury of tutelage under the wing of some expert. I have lerned from lots of folks, several here. This is a learning environment or can be. Lots of folks know more than me and I listen and learn. The result is in 13 or so years of Ducati ownership I have become close to the guy in his garage expert. I may not have every fancy tool but I have done equal work in many resepcts to the best of em out there. My high water mark was the only time I had work done in a shop... and I took bike to BCM one winter....quite a drive from Va Beach...tells you
what I thought of Bruce...but I needed a custom FIM chip for my slightly improved 916 which was then being called a 955SP...it did not make the most power of any 955 but it was close and though Bruce and Kyle went over the entire bike they could not find anything wrong with it....based on my work. Course they did find a few things wrong with it, I needed a better chip and an occassional miss was traced to a crank sensor that was too close and needed another shim. Bottom line is I represent that age old guy in his garage and if I can do it anyone can. You just take your time, keep notes, even take jpgs as you go along. Be methodical and double triple check your work. Ask any questions you can think of here. there are folks here who are encyclopedic in their approach to providing info. Larry K is one example that always springs to mind. Art Ramos, Chris Kelly, Brad B., Clayton, Arch and many more all have loads of experience and eager to share. Good luck, Happy New Year.
Rich
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From: John Filak
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Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 8:15:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 748 Rockers
--- Rich Roberts wrote:
> If interested look on Arch's site to see a
> simple rocker shaft pulling tool ...
Can you point me to that 'site?
Thanks,
John Filak
Potterstown NJ USA
http://users.nac.net/filak
'00 BMW K1200RS "The Gates Of Delirium"
'96 Ducati 900SS/CR "El Gato"
'97 Ducati 916 Strada "El Fuego"
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:43:13 -0700
From: rmichantz at uswest.net
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 1 year old 95 SS CR
To: Ducati Owners Group
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What are you smoking!!! Best all around bike Ducati EVER made was the
prior to 99 900's, I have owned them all and still do.
Rick
At 12:15 AM 1/2/2007, you wrote:
>>The last of that breed came off the line in '98. The later SS's can't
>>compare.
>
>Indeed not, as they (the later SSs) are far better bikes, and nicer
>looking as well!
>
>Tom
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:52:00 -0800 (PST)
From: John Filak
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 748 Rockers
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--- Rich Roberts wrote:
> http://www.archmoto.com/rich/pics.html ...
Thanks Rich. I, too, like to perform my own work. This goes all the
way back to my first bike in 1973 - a big old '60 H-D Duo Glide (wish
I still had it). Since then, there have been many others. But for the
first time, life's road has taken me to the world of Ducati, and the
learning process continues. From the '96 CR that I aquired about 2
years ago to the 916 I picked up this past August, it seems like
Ducati will be my main focus for awhile.
Thanks for the link. That looks like my kind of tool!
John
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:56:08 EST
From: Veloce916 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 1 year old 95 SS CR
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I'm with you Rick. It may not be the most cutting edge tool anymore but a
day on an "early" 900SS is like hanging out with old friends. Leaves you
wondering why you don't get together with the old gang more often! :-) I do
appreciate the advantages the more modern 900's have to offer but personally if I
am going to ride something that uncomfortable (and unexplainably tall) it
needs to be a Superbike. The early 90's version does look a bit square in the
headlight even to me these days but it's still a classic and I prefer that look
to the newer model to this day. All personal preference of course and I
suppose an argument could easily be made that the BEST 900SS ever was built in
1975 (the old silver and blue ones) leaving both other versions in the dust of
it's escalating resale value.
Vicki
In a message dated 1/2/2007 9:43:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rmichantz at uswest.net writes:
What are you smoking!!! Best all around bike Ducati EVER made was the
prior to 99 900's, I have owned them all and still do.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:52:57 -0800
From: "Ronald Betts"
Subject: Re: [Ducati] NDC Spam...just wondering -- Zook DRZ125L
To: ducati at ducati.net
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Aint it the truth Mike....! But life is good.
Peace...Ron"Desmohead"Betts 95 900 SP
I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!
>From: mike major
>Reply-To: Ducati Owners Group
>To: Ducati Owners Group
>Subject: Re: [Ducati] NDC Spam...just wondering -- Zook DRZ125L
>Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:42:47 -0800 (PST)
>
>We a bunch o wimps, plus if you gave me control of the finances the
>mortgage money would go to something more important.....like toys.
>Moonbeam
>
>Tom wrote: >I refer to my SWMBO as the Chancellor of
>the Exchequer.
>
>Personally, I've always been the one who must be obeyed (and controls the
>finances). What's with you guys?
>
>Tom
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:22:24 -0800
From: "Ronald Betts"
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 1 year old 95 SS CR
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Went for a little ride on New Years Morning with my son. He on his 05 999
and me on my 95 SP. I'll tell you this much, after a couple of hours in the
saddle my boy was wiped and I was ready for more. So I rode his for about an
hour and gave it back to him. Granted his is scary fast and handles like it
knows what you want, but there is a certain combination of that old shoe
feel and familarity thats makes me glad I own the SP. I'm the origanal owner
and cant think of ever parting with it. Although I wouldnt mind parking the
new 1098 tri color in the garage to keep her company...;-}>
Peace...Ron"Desmohead"Betts 95 900 SP
I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!
>From: Veloce916 at aol.com
>Reply-To: Ducati Owners Group
>To: ducati at ducati.net
>Subject: Re: [Ducati] 1 year old 95 SS CR
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:56:08 EST
>
>
>I'm with you Rick. It may not be the most cutting edge tool anymore but a
>day on an "early" 900SS is like hanging out with old friends. Leaves you
>wondering why you don't get together with the old gang more often! :-) I
>do
>appreciate the advantages the more modern 900's have to offer but
>personally if I
>am going to ride something that uncomfortable (and unexplainably tall) it
>needs to be a Superbike. The early 90's version does look a bit square in
>the
>headlight even to me these days but it's still a classic and I prefer that
>look
>to the newer model to this day. All personal preference of course and I
>suppose an argument could easily be made that the BEST 900SS ever was
>built in
>1975 (the old silver and blue ones) leaving both other versions in the
>dust of
>it's escalating resale value.
>Vicki
>
>
>In a message dated 1/2/2007 9:43:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>rmichantz at uswest.net writes:
>
>What are you smoking!!! Best all around bike Ducati EVER made was the
>prior to 99 900's, I have owned them all and still do.
>
>
>
>
>*****
>
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>magazines. All of it for $17. Check it out!
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:09:00 +0100
From: "Antonio Nolasco"
Subject: Re: [Ducati] 1 year old 95 SS CR
To: "Ducati Owners Group"
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