[Ducati] 2002 Monster S$

[Dave Lewis]

The black ignition key has a microchip in it, so it serves two purposes:

   1. the cut of the key satisfies the lock fit to turn on the bike
   2. the micro chip insures the key is not a copy and electronically
   interlocks the ignition, only a programmed black key can start the bike.

The red key is for the device that programs the black key should you want a
new one made. This will take a special black ey blank that has the micro
chip in it and only the dealer can program. Then the key usually has to be
cut (a separate step) either by the dealer or a lock smith.

This is your security system that prvents someone from getting a copy of
your black key or defeating the security system.

On Dec 1, 2007 9:57 PM, mike major <textike at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have to admit that I have no real idea of the function of the red key as
> my bike has always worked fine with either black key.  Can someone out there
> explain, in 100 words or less, why I have a red key, how it differs from the
> black keys and what I should do with it?  Right now it lives in my work bag
> along with the black key and other assorted spare keys.  Later, Moonbeam
>
> George Betzhold <george at scottishwoods.com> wrote:  Rodger -
> This whole deal sounds pretty fishy. It almost sounds like a stolen or a
> salvage title bike. Are you certain that the bike really only has 139
> miles.
> New gauges perhaps??? A close look at the obvious (tires, brake disks and
> pads, oil, nooks and crannies) should make it possible to confirm the bike
> as a truly low mileage bike.
>
> If it is a clean (provenance wise) bike, there is no real reason for the
> Red
> Key not being part of the deal. Your seller sounds questionable. In any
> case, I am not aware of any legit way to get around the Red Key. You might
> want to consider getting your money back. As the owner of a bike WITH a
> Red
> Key, I am happy Ducati makes it hard and expensive.
>
> George Betzhold
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net] On
> Behalf
> Of Rodger Mauch
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:22 AM
> To: Ducati Owners Group
> Subject: [Ducati] 2002 Monster S$
>
> I recently purchased a 2002 Monster S4 with only 139 miles on it.
> Unfortunately it didn't have the red master key with it. I had the
> owner include the statement that he would pay the replacement cost
> for the key in the bill of sale. Unfortunately he refused to pay once
> he found out the cost. I have seen info on the net that this can be
> replaced for $750. Every dealer I contact wants $3200. Ebay had some
> one that said they could create a Black copy of the red key if I sent
> them the Dash, ECU, and a black key. When I asked them if they
> covered damages to the parts if they messed up I got no reply. I
> didn't want to take the risk sending the parts to them. Can anyone
> give me some suggestions on this.
>
> Rodger
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