[Ducati] 2002 Monster S$

[Rodger Mauch]

I believe you are correct about the performance ECU and pipes being a  
better option. The dealer even said that the could do that including  
a cam kit for the same amount of money as Red Key Replacement. The  
concerns I have is that I don't want to disable the imobilisor or  
invest that much in the Monster S4 because the cost is $3200. I would  
consider putting on high mount pipes and a performance ecu if it was  
closer to $1000 so I can install a seperate alarm system. Does anyone  
have the performance ecu and high mount pipes installed? I am curious  
how that changes things. I have also been told the changing the rear  
sprocket is a must.

Rodger

On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:52 AM, pcoulon at oxya.com wrote:

> Hello
>
> I would not bother speeding money just to get the red key. If you  
> need it
> there are some ways to get the bike back running :
>
> On a 2003 ST4S (same engine type 996) there are some "performance" ECU
> that do not check the key code (possibly ducati performance, or the  
> ones
> made in Australia).
> Here  in Lyon France a guy crashed his bike, it was cheaper to buy the
> performance kit (2 mufflers +ECU) + dash than changing the  
> dashboard, ECU.
>
> If you want to be prepared set the money aside, check with the ECU
> manufacturers or reseller (I think desmotimes had one of these) to be
> ready to get one fast in case of troubles.
> But actually needing a red key is a remote situation.
>
> Check with your insurance though : they might demand that you show the
> keys (all of them red included) in the event of thief to show that  
> you did
> not let them on the bike.
>
> Philippe
>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:22:50 +1100
>> From: "Kerry and Brad Black" <bikeboy at alphalink.com.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Ducati] 2002 Monster S$
>> To: "Ducati.Net" <ducati at ducati.net>
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>> the red key is fuctionally a normal key as well as an immobilisor  
>> 'master
>> key'.  it's used to:
>>
>> 1/ turn on the bike, but not recommended in case you lose it.
>>
>> 2/ initiate a key coding procedure, needed if you want to activate  
>> a new
>> key or recode the keys you have to exclude an old key.
>>
>> 3/ code a new ecu to the immobilisor (inside the dash on '02 s4).
>>
>> 4/ code a new immobilisor to the ecu.
>>
>> it's the sort of thing that you don't need until you need it, and  
>> then you
>> really need it.  realistically, you can replace anything and have  
>> the bike
>> still run with virgin ecu or dash, but it might start a key coding
>> countdown on the dash everytime you key on and the immobilisor  
>> won't work.
>>
>> all immobilisor bikes prior to the 1098 have 1 red and 2 black  
>> keys.  if
>> you have only 2 black then you didn't get the red.
>>
>> brad
>>
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