I'm sure back in "Old Italy" that there is a painter at the Ducati Factory pulling his hair out of his head one strand at a time reading this thread! I bet he could be heard mumbling, 'What's wrong with red!"....... Art Ramos 2005 999R 1999 996 Mono (Frankenduc) 1999 944 SSie (Angryduc) www.hyperpastabiker.net