[Ducati] New guy needs Clutch Help

Tue Jun 13 12:01:23 EDT 2006

Ok so I got my hydraulic slave cylinder (from a newer ss) and put it on 
today with the new and improved brembo remote master cylinder and lever (off 
a 748 I think).  I have a 1992 ss.
I go to bleed the clutch, get a lot of air and the a lot of fluid, I figure 
I am done, I note that the lever has a VERY light pull but figure I will try 
it, I start the bike and pull in the clutch and try to shift... nope the 
lever is not "opening" the clutch.

What might be wrong here?  Could the new parts not have big enough holes to 
let fluid through?  Could my clutch rod be not in the right place? (I slid 
it out to check it and them slid it back in)  Could there be something wrong 
with the actual clutch?
Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Roberts" <bigredxrunner at yahoo.com>
To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ducati] New guy needs Clutch Help

Oh and yres, a slipper will go on just like a conventional, meaning you 
totally disassemble the stock clutch essentially emptying that side of cover 
and you install slipper in its place. It is a couple hour job, lots of folks 
here can help talk you through it. Even I had some issues installing slipper 
spring some years back and Alex O provided the idea I was missing. STM has 
instructions on their site and I have saved the instructions if you want to 
see them sometime. Standard is pretty much remove and reinstall new in 
reverse order. meaning if you pay attention to removal and what you are 
doing installing new is very much the reverse. A slipper is a bit more 
complicated beacuse the hub is essentially two pieces with a ramp between 
the two so it can slip forwards and backwards, also you have choice of 
conventional  springs or one central spring with slippers.
  careful of dust, clean everything out with a good solvent cleaner like 
brake cleaner, noting that all such cleaners can be hard on paint, even the 
tough stuff Ducati uses. Just wipe with damp cloth not spraying too much so 
it never has time to work on paint. Clean plats of all solvents, grease etc. 
Make sure tabs slide in and out easily so plates are not hanging up. If 
using stock pressure plate not the slot and arrow on spring/pressure plate 
mounting. Watch O ring on rod, check bearing in pressure plate.
  I think that covers alot but as you make a choice, and it is partly just 
choice, when you encounter confusion just give us a hollar to help. Rich

SSG Lemire <ducatiboy at hotmail.com> wrote:
  What about updating to the newer slipper clutches I hear newer Ducati's 
come
with standard (the multistrada comes to mind) Is that a direct replacement?
Do I need a slipper clutch?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Roberts"
To: "Ducati Owners Group"
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Ducati] New guy needs Clutch Help

No, removing clutch not that difficult,, the hardest part of removing clutch
is the basket, I usually use a pneumatic impact for that. Baskets get
notches as well as hub so at some point you do need to replace the entire
package, basket, hub and all steel and friction plates. There are a ton of
good options there depending on your budget. Barnett makes baskets, Nichols
makes baskets, etc etc. Still the stock steel basket is not expensive. So
going back with stock parts is not really a bad idea esp in terms of costs,
I know surprising considering they are Ducati Parts. But a new aftermarket
basket will run you more, in some cases twice as much as stock. I think you
might be able to get an entirely new package for 600-800 depending on what
you want, that being a standard 12 tab non slipper with conventional
pressure plate and springs. Yoyodyne is a good palce to start looking but
not the only ones. There are bunches of options.

SSG Lemire wrote: Hi Rich,
This is what I did.
I took the slave off and it looks ok, although there is a little rubber boot
near the front sprocket that was ripped, I am hoping the amount of grit that
was in there was not the problem. I pulled the rod out and it appears fine
as well. While I was at it I took the clutch lever and master cylinder off
and replaced them with a Brembo "gold" master with remote reservoir off a
748, I thought I had all the pieces but my lever doesn't have the plunger
or the retaining bolt. I am looking for those pieces, If I cannot find them
I will put my regular square black master back on, bleed the clutch and try
it again. I am hoping I do not need a new clutch basket as my mechanic
thinks may be the problem. I have never removed my clutch, Is that
difficult?
Thanks for the help.
Michael
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Roberts"
To: "Ducati Owners Group"
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ducati] New guy needs Clutch Help

Michael did you get my direct response and try any of those things i
suggested. Rich husband of Maxine from the Hawk list. :)

SSG Lemire wrote: Hi all,
New guy to this list, Friends of mine on the Hawk list told me about it.

I have a 1992 900ss

Long story as short as I can.

I recently had a really hard lever pull with the clutch, 1st pull was kinda
hard, 2nd was worse and 3rd nearly inpossible, then the bike never fully
went out of gear, limped it home (this was after a day of riding and
noticing some clutch slip , I would get on the gas and it would pull hen all
of a sudden full go into gear)
I was't sure what it was, took the clutch cover off and all looks good,
opened up the master resivoir and the fluid is black and looked a little
low. Took the slave cylinder off and there was some gunk in there, seems
the little rubber boot keeping grease and grime off the bar was ripped. So
I am thinking there was some dirt stopping the cylinder from pushing the
rod.
I want to replace the slave cylinder, can I use one from a 748/916? What
does everyone reccomned?
While I am at it I have a remote resevior and lever from a 748 that I want
to put on, I need the bolt and plunger for the lever, Anyone know where I
might get one? Anyone got something for sale? Also I have to replace that
rubber boot near the slave cylinder, where might I get one of those (my
local dealer is useless and would take weeks to get me parts at high prices,
ebay is good but I can't find what I am looking for and I have my first
trackday in 3 weeks!)

Thanks in advance, Michael