[Ducati] 748 overheating
Moto Star
motostar67 at hotmail.com
Sun Jul 16 11:33:43 EDT 2006
I just have to say it.....
That was a great post Larry!
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>From: Larry Kelly <ljkelly at san.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati at ducati.net>
>To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati at ducati.net>
>Subject: Re: [Ducati] 748 overheating
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:26:14 -0700
>
>
>On Jul 12, 2006, at 4:30 PM, S Rudloff wrote:
>
>>I have a 2001 748 that overheats the red light does not come on neather
>>does the fan. what is the regular temp that it should run at.
>
>TOO HOT?
>
>The temperature gauge displays the range of expected operating
>temperatures. The midpoint is selected to correspond to the nominal design
>operating temperature.
>
>If you're at speed on a warm day you should expect to see temperatures
>between the gauge midpoint and three-quarter point, (usually 100°C for
>water-cooled bikes) where the maximum gauge reading indicates the boiling
>point of a pressurized 50/50 mix coolant, the temperature at which the
>pressure relief cap will likely discharge coolant to the overflow tank.
>
>When you get stuck in stop-and-go traffic, the temperature will naturally
>begin to rise because now there is reduced airflow through the radiator
>cooling fins. During these traffic conditions, temperatures in the upper
>quarter of the gauge display should be EXPECTED and not necessarily be a
>cause for alarm or an indication of cooling system problems.
>
>If it gets too hot your Ducati's fuel injected engine management computer
>automatically retards the engine ignition timing so as to run well at this
>higher temperature, but at a reduced power output.
>
>An engine should be at its design operating temperature to make good
>power. Higher temperatures are more thermodynamically efficient, but run
>at too high a temperature and you exceed the thermal expansion design
>basis of critical components and raise fuel octane requirements.
>
>Ducati fuel injected motorcycles use engine management computers
>incorporating a coolant temperature sensor to retard the engine ignition
>timing to compensate for any increase in octane requirement when operating
>temperatures increase. Retard the timing and you reduce power.
>
>Most stock-engined sportbikes are designed to produce their best power
>when coolant temperatures are close to 200°F/95°C.
>
>Duane Mitchel reported that he ran a series of tests to establish optimum
>running temp for a race bike and found that (185F) 85ºC is perfect. Over
>that, they lose horsepower fairly quickly (down about 15 HP at 100ºC) and
>below that the same (down about 6 HP at 65ºC).
>
>Your first step is to straighten out any bent radiator fins and cover them
>with protective screening.
>
>This is an easy do-it-yourself project for a superbike. After you
>straighten any bent radiator fins, cut a piece of aluminum window
>screening to fit leaving 4-5 inches on top to make some tabs to bend over
>the top and back of the radiator. It conforms easily to the curved
>radiator shape and the wind pressure holds it firmly against the radiator.
>
>Remove the V-shaped lower cowl and attach another piece of screen to
>protect the oil cooler. Fasten it to the back of the panel with small
>self-tapping screws and washers at the four molded holes. Silicone
>adhesive or double-sided tape also works.
>
>Any screening will reduce airflow somewhat, of course. The smaller the
>mesh, the more protection against smaller debris. I can only offer that
>common aluminum window screen works fine in desert temperatures with no
>noticeable effect on 916 coolant temperatures.
>
>I wish I thought of it right away before fin damage occurred. After 20,000
>miles, I still haven't had to replace it. I used window screening simply
>because it's cheap to replace and has a fine-enough mesh to spread out the
>impact load (and keep bugs out), but if you prefer something different,
>check out the McMaster-Carr web site. When they sell mesh screening, they
>define the percent open area that tells you about its ability to flow air.
>
>If you want even lower coolant temperatures, change from a ethylene
>glycol/water 50/50 coolant mix to WaterWetter and water, but I caution you
>that this will often make the bike run at temperatures below the gauge
>midpoint, too cool for efficient operation.
>
>
>Larry Kelly
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