[Ducati] rumours

Mon Aug 14 07:31:45 EDT 2006

Check it out Rich -
http://www.edwards.af.mil/openhouse/indexflash.html
They used to do shows annually. I think they may have missed a couple
lately. Of course, I have been gone also.
I believe all of the '71's are on the ground. They became too costly to
operate. Most have been allocated to museums.
Back in the 80's, they used to do extensive displays and flybys at Norton
AFB. I got some great shots there.

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-----Original Message-----
From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net]On
Behalf Of Rich Roberts
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:57 PM
To: Ducati Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Ducati] rumours

So how long do I have to wait for the 75th??? I need to pay closer attention
to this stuff. Back in the late 80s my wife and I were returning from a
cross country MC trip and when approaching Mojave saw al these signs for
Welcome Home Voyager...I was clueless and I actually knew who Burt Rutan was
then.....doh....so we camped across the street from the airport and rode in
in the morning to find them getting plane ready for the Smithsonian.  I
think Rutan was there and Jeager...and noone else. At Oshkosh pilot of
SpaceshipOne gave a nice talk...but highlight was meeting Bud Anderson.
SR 71...ya mean the YF12A????? ha ha that nomenclature dates me. probably
the only kid on my block  who knew what a YF12A was...course Edwards is home
for alot of this stuff....they do a show every year or just on special
anniversaries? Oshkosh was a good ride but heck I have a BMW so long days in
saddle not a problem....at least it will get me there without frying a
regulator rectifier or something.... :)
Anyway do they still have any Blackbirds flying? Wonder whatever became of
the spook SR71s? Always interesting stuff huh? R

----- Original Message ----
From: Art Ramos <hyperpastabiker at gmail.com>
To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati at ducati.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:40:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Ducati] rumours

Hi Rich

I attended the 1997 50th anniversary of the breaking of the sound barrier at
Edward AFB. I've been to the Reno Air Races since I was 11. I've seen many a
show and have just about seen them all. Great place to see go fast warbirds.
Edwards was the icing on the cake! Everything we as tax payer pay for was in
the air that day! C17, B-1, B-2, F117, F-111, F-14,15,16, C-130, C5a, SR71,
they even had the Space Shuttle 747 to walk through, as well as an Old
Lockheed Connie! You think the B-1 was a thrill? How about a SR71 leaving
the ground in full afterburner mode and heading skyward until it's out of
sight? That took all of about 30 seconds! It then did a fly over at 30,000ft
and popped the sound barrier at Mach 2 . You couldn't see the plane, only
the contrail from the motors. Even at 30,000ft you tell it was covering a
lot of ground pretty damn fast! It was cartoon like!

The event that took my breath away was a Edwards test pilot flying a
experimental F-16. This guy was the Rossi of flying! He'd throw the fighter
into a bank in front of the crowds and was so close and low to the crowd you
could see the control surfaces moving! He was loading the plane so much you
could see the control surfaces move and then the plane react to the control
surfaces input. Then he'd crank the plane's controls in the opposite
direction and the control surfaces would remain there until the plane
stopped rotation and caught up to the input and rotated in the revrse
direction!  He really wrung out that fighter! I'd never seen a plane so
stressed as well as the motor! Ever have a F16 500ft over your head and I
mean directly, on full burner? My heart never beat so fast in my life!

If you think Oshkosh is something try Edwards for the 75th anniversary of
the breaking of the sound barrier. It's a day when the military has some fun
with it's huge toy box of planes.I promise you will not be disappointed! A
little deaf maybe, but with a huge smile on your face.

Oh, yeah Yeager re-broke the barrier to the minute that day in an F-15. The
SR71's pop was much louder at twice the altitude! : )

I'll never forget that day at Edwards!

Art

On 8/11/06, Rich Roberts <bigredxrunner at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> HA, some of us still hear from MC on occassion, how long has his presence
> been missing here now....I misss his cranky presence and the depth of his
> experience....compared to mike some of us are still the new kids on the
> block...  gee I thought Ducati dumped AMA when Ferracci got out of it...Ha
> ha  just does not seem that long ago watching Polen, I had completely
> fgorgotten the year Mladin rode for him...but not Scott
Russell????...maybe
> I also am an old cranky bastard like MC but ..but Ducati in US has been
> rather disappointing for too too long...even Eraldo struggled...what year
> was it when both bikes stood idle at pit out at Daytona cause they would
not
> start?
> Hodas V5 will prove interesting I hope, I also thought the RC51 a good
> bike but it did not sell so well and was not an especially critical
success
> though I thought it was fun and rock steady. Certainly i do not suspect a
> Honda V-5 will be 60000. Sell on Monday what you race on Sunday being an
> industry motto sounds good except when your sales model is exclusivity
which
> I do not think Honda shares thank god. I am not attracted to Ducatis for
> thier exclusivity...and these days seeing more of them on the road good
> thing...but for some reason a Honda just never quite makes it into the
ranks
> of engineering art so....
> Mid Ohio my favorite track...did they have a track day there also? I used
> to do the Team Suzuki Endurance thing with Aldana and Ulrich...always alot
> of fun watching Aldana pull away or Ulrich Jr pass you inside/outside on
his
> 250 or was it a 125??????
> I was thinking of that when I passed by on my way to Oshkosh on beemer,
> for those who have never been it is another one of those
gearhead/motorhead
> overloads and makes Bike Week look a little small, you think we have it
> bad....guys into airplanes have it far worse....in 3 dimensions....some of
> these aerobatic planes with 350-500 hp wow...got to meet some of the
> SpaceshipOne crowd, Bud Anderson, Rutan...it was a blast and of course 33
> from Richmond to Fort Wayne was nice and 250 all the way thru WV into
> Virginia is an all time favorite piece of roadway...biggest airshow in the
> world I think...imagine B1 doing low level flyby at maybe 500 feet and
> rolling out with afterburners as it climbs away from onground crowd so
what
> you see as plane climbs is the red of afterburners...or watching a F16,
P38
> and P51 flying in formation or so many P51s in one place you think you are
> in Eurpoe during WWII,,,course the planes look way to nice....polished to
> blinding mirror like shine. I
> spent an hour talking to guy who does Rolls Royce Merlin
> restorations....anyway, anyone who likes this sort of thing you can not
see
> it all and since it is a convention really there is as much inside as
> out....talks by all sorts of folks from the history to the mechanics to
> restorations, I learned as much about composites there as anywhere you
could
> go. Highly recommended. Rich
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker at yahoo.com>
> To: ducati list <ducati at ducati.net>
> Cc: road& race <roadrace at cci.net.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2006 3:52:53 AM
> Subject: [Ducati] rumours
>
>
> here's a couple of rumours out of europe that will
> spark some discussion.
> foggy to run moto gp team with biaggi as rider.
> ducati to dump ama superbikes due to high costs & lack
> of success.
> honda has registered patents for a V5 road engine with
> chain drive OH cams - will they beat ducati to the
> road????
> HEY i met the infamous mike ceccini at mid ohio -
> seemed ok to me. speaks his mind which i guess rubs
> some people the wrong way if they don't agree.isn't
> america the land of free speech?????
> i even met someone who admitted to voting for george
> bush. 1 out of the hundreds i met so how did he get in
> again -;)
>
> phil hitchcock
> www.roadandrace.com.au
> roadrace at cci.net.au
>
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