[Ducati] NDC: Don't pass at the Gap

Tue Aug 1 18:29:38 EDT 2006

Hi Scott:

I know you're an A$$hole, I was at the the last a$$hole meeting and I 
remember seeing you there
(being a charter member myself).

I agree with you!
We have to put a stop to the nanny state.

Would anyone on a Duc have been that stupid???

                                David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Cloninger" <scloninger at astecinc.com>
To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati at ducati.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Ducati] NDC: Don't pass at the Gap

I've stayed out of this thread, until now, because I figured WTF...the guy 
passed blind and beyond his ability and experience, the guy got what he 
deserved when he wadded his junk in the Gap, the guy's pals helped him out, 
'nuff said.  If the rider had been alone then I feel the cager should have 
stopped to help, or not, as dictated by his conscience.  However, in this 
situation where the "victim", and I use that term loosely since he's simply 
sleeping in a self-made bed, has all of the assistance he might need I think 
the cager is absolved of any moral responsibility to render assistance.

That said, I find the idea of legislating good will (good samaritan laws) to 
be absolutely reprehensible.

I'm an a$$hole.  I want to be an a$$hole and no one should be able to 
legislate against my natural right to be an a$$hole, just like you shouldn't 
(and really can't) legislate against the our hero's right to be stupid 
(could have as easily been a guy on a Duc, so I'm not picking on HD 
riders...I own one of those too, though mine was made in Italy).  In my 
opinion the law should never be used to obligate people to make a choice 
that has no real effect on the rest of society.  We should immediately 
abolish laws addressing things like oral sex (in private...I'm for it but I 
don't wanna see it!!), seatbelts (though I'd wear mine anyway), helmets 
(same as seatbelts), blue laws (or any other laws that enforce religion 
based mandates), and a number of other issues.  Additionally, torte reform 
is in order so that our litigous society can get move toward one where 
personal responsibility is more prevalent, along with stronger penalties for 
filing frivolous suits to reduce the legal burden on business and in turn 
the cost of goods and services purchased by society at large.

I feel like many of these issues should be handled by contract rather than 
by legislation.  For instance, your insurance company might stipulate that 
whilst you're driving your car you must wear your seat belt, and that if you 
don't you are personally responsible for your own medical care costs 
resulting from any accident.  Ditto helmets.  The government must then 
absolve itself of any responsibility by stating that it will bear the cost 
of NOBODY's medical care regardless of the situation!!  (I know, I'm in the 
minority be advocating that you pay your own way.....what a concept, huh?) 
If you knew you might be financially ruined, or might simply die because you 
can't afford care, wouldn't you wear your seat belt or proper DOT approved 
helmet?  Isn't that a better incentive than a $30 ticket that has no long 
term reprecussions?

Dang...I've wandered far astray, huh.  If you don't like my thoughts, well, 
you're entitled to your own opinion and I don't give a crap....I'm an 
a$$hole, remember?

Scott Cloninger
Chattanooga, TN
A$$hole....and owner of some bikes, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: ducatisti [mailto:ducatisti at emptytank.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:30 AM
To: Ducati Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Ducati] NDC: Don't pass at the Gap

That's why we have (at least in TX) "good samaritan" laws.

cody

TheGeek wrote:
> And in your great United States, the bikers would figure out a way to sue
> the vehicle driver for millions just because he was there.
> (Another stereotype that is sometimes true.)
>
> Peter S
>
>

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