[Ducati] NDC: Don't pass at the Gap

Tue Aug 1 17:11:41 EDT 2006

The cagers shoulda at least asked if they wanted them to call an ambulance
when they got in cell phone range, or if the guy wasn't in to bad shape to
drive him to the Crossorads. I heard one of the cagers say something to the
effect 'these bikers will kick our ass - drive on'. I can't count how many
ppl got carted down to the cross roads by good ppl in cars to sort things
out. Not all cagers are idiots, just some and in particular those ones.

PaulM

-----Original Message-----
From: ducati-bounces at ducati.net [mailto:ducati-bounces at ducati.net]On
Behalf Of Scott Cloninger
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:13 PM
To: Ducati Owners Group
Subject: RE: [Ducati] NDC: Don't pass at the Gap

Jules,

I'd have stopped.  I think it was the HD guy's fault.  I think he was
stupid.  I think he learned something from his excursion.  I've done stupid
things.  I'll do more stupid things.  I don't think the cager had any moral
responsibility to stop once he was sure the biker was attended to, and he
obviously was.  I have a Harley Davidson.  I do stupid things on it, too.  I
have no anti-HD bias.  I'd have checked on the bevel...without a doubt.

Enough with the simple statements.....who brought the beer?  Seriously,
though, give a holler when you're in the area and I'll show you Deal's Gap
and why the HD guy did something less smart than you can imagine!!  I live
about 90 minutes from Deal's Gap and I'd be happy to take a ride with ya!!

BTW, what online gaming are you into lately.  I've been sampling a number of
360 titles....Call of Duty 2, Perfect Dark Zero, etc. and I've been a PC
gamer for years.  Holler if you need some FarCry or something!!!  I suck,
but I make an excellent target.  8 )

Cheers,

Cloner (a.k.a. Scott Cloninger)
Chattanooga, TN
(423) 309-3496

-----Original Message-----
From: jules [mailto:jules at popmonkey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 1:07 PM
To: 'Ducati Owners Group'
Subject: RE: [Ducati] NDC: Don't pass at the Gap

also sprach vduc on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:58 AM:
> The "cager" should have stopped out of decency or only to check how
> the guy was.  In the end the cager didn't cause the accident and
> wasn't really involved so legally in my opinion didn't need to stop,
> therefore wasn't fleeing the site of an accident.  The biker passed
> on a double yellow and proceeded to go off road.

the cager was at the very least a witness.  you can have no fault in an
accident but still be involved in it.  was the cager innocent?  of
course.  was he involved?  maybe a leo can answer that...  at the
scene...

but regardless of all that yes, my main point was that he should have
stopped out of human decency.  if it had been me driving I would have
stopped.  I'm amazed at the number of you that are of the "well the
harley guy deserved it, 'cause he's stupid" variety.  I'm sure non of
you have ever done anything stupid...

or is it that he was on a harley?  would it have been different if that
was a beautiful 74 bevelhead?  I'm betting someone here would have
stopped just to check on the bike :P

--
j u l e s @ p o p m o n k e y . c o m
http://www.popmonkey.com/jules

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